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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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Buschur BR330 IX dyno results

Fellas.. I was fortunate enough to spend quite some time yesterday with David Buschur, his crew as well as Al to tune what I believe is the first EVO IX BR330. (...and didnt even mind missing the Buckeye's wup up on Michigan!)

What else can i say... i am extremely stoked about the results. 60HP and Torque net gains. What a solid package David has put together here along with Medina Mitsubishi. (...and a value I might add)

As well, it goes without saying that David, his team and Al are masters at their art, professional and good people.

Attached are the dyno results... hopefully not too small to enjoy.

happy thanksgiving all...
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Ok I am kind of confused. Was your EVO IX stock and then had the BR330 and tune package installed? Or did you buy your IX already with the BR330 package installed on the car and had baseline numbers taken? Either way I am very impressed, your EVO IX basically only has a downpipe, cat-back exhaust, filter, and flash as power adders. I know the Buschur dyno reads real low, and this is potentialy making well over 300WHP on a dyno jet.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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You missed teh OSU game, totally not worth it dude.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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3000ways,

yes, i purchased the EVO IX MR with BR330 package.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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Actually now that I think about it, the numbers are yes impressive, but not as impressive as I would have thought. Could it be that the flash on your IX is more for an VIII than a IX. I say this, because I'm reading Vishnu's thread on the EVO IX and the IX ECU and MIVEC is very complicated and different than the VIII and I didn't realize Buschur and camp had already started development on the IX ECU. I mean is the flash that you have on your car truly extracting the power potential of the IX. Vishnu has already extracted a tremdous amount of power from the IX with just tuning. So far their IX has made 37WHP a lone on just tuning and they haven't even finished tuning yet and the numbers are expected to be much higher. I believe your IX as it sits now, has a good 20 more WHP left in it with more tuning.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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Also not in anyway saying what you put down is not impressive, stock 2005s make only around 205-215WHP on Buschurs dyno, and two stock EVO IXs already dynoed similiar numbers, so your car pretty much picked up as you alrady stated 60WHP+ with just a Flash, Intake, Down Pipe, and Cat-Back Exhaust on pump gas that in itself is very impressive. But it just goes to show how impressive the IX is, when you expect more from an already impressive dyno gain. With a full turbo back and MBC you could possible see another 20WHP.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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Wow, only 210/208 stock? Seems kinda low doesn't it? What kinda numbers are other stock cars putting out on this dyno?
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Yes, only 210/208, Buschur uses a Mustang dyno that reads lower than Dyno Jets. That really doesn't matter though, because all dynos, dyno differently, the gains on the same dyno used is what is impressive.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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Is that 210whp baseline from an EVO 8 or EVO 9? EVO 9s *should* make 15-25whp more than EVO 8, all things equal.

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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Is that 210whp baseline from an EVO 8 or EVO 9? EVO 9s *should* make 15-25whp more than EVO 8, all things equal.

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They have dyno'd the same as 05s on Buschur's MD on 3 separate occasions that have all been published here. You're saying that IX's should average 15-25whp more than 05s that already do 245-250whp on Dynojets?
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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VIIIs have dynoed similiar numbers as the IX did. That is the thing about the IX, some dyno similiar to VIIIs and some have dynoed higher, in some cases much higher. I know your (Shiv) IX dynoed pretty high, and others have too, so I do not think it is a case of you having a factory freak. I believe that the average EVO IX will dyno higher than VIIIs, above average will dyno much higher, and lower powered IXs will make similiar WHP to VIIIs. This is just my opinion though.

For further comparison of a IX and VIII here are some dyno figures I found on Buschur Mustang Dyno-

2006 BR330 IX (Performance Adders)
Down Pipe
Cat-Back Exhaust
Intake
Flash
271WHP
266WTQ

2003 EVO VIII (Performance Adders)-
Down Pipe
Cat-Back Exhaust
Test Pipe
MBC
Flash
Intercooler Upgrade
Lower Intercooler Piping
264/264 Cams
Ignition Upgrade
Head Studs
Ground Kit
Fuel Pump
BOV
296WHP
274WTQ

Of course not everything on the VIII does much for performance, but still interesting.

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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Is that 210whp baseline from an EVO 8 or EVO 9? EVO 9s *should* make 15-25whp more than EVO 8, all things equal.

-shiv
the 210whp base was my baseline EVO IX pull on buschur's mustang dyno.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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Actually now that I think about it, the numbers are yes impressive, but not as impressive as I would have thought. Could it be that the flash on your IX is more for an VIII than a IX. I say this, because I'm reading Vishnu's thread on the EVO IX and the IX ECU and MIVEC is very complicated and different than the VIII and I didn't realize Buschur and camp had already started development on the IX ECU. I mean is the flash that you have on your car truly extracting the power potential of the IX. Vishnu has already extracted a tremdous amount of power from the IX with just tuning. So far their IX has made 37WHP a lone on just tuning and they haven't even finished tuning yet and the numbers are expected to be much higher. I believe your IX as it sits now, has a good 20 more WHP left in it with more tuning.

i read that too... and, to be honest, i am not sure. i think Al would be best to speak to this.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 3000ways
Actually now that I think about it, the numbers are yes impressive, but not as impressive as I would have thought. Could it be that the flash on your IX is more for an VIII than a IX. I say this, because I'm reading Vishnu's thread on the EVO IX and the IX ECU and MIVEC is very complicated and different than the VIII and I didn't realize Buschur and camp had already started development on the IX ECU. I mean is the flash that you have on your car truly extracting the power potential of the IX. Vishnu has already extracted a tremdous amount of power from the IX with just tuning. So far their IX has made 37WHP a lone on just tuning and they haven't even finished tuning yet and the numbers are expected to be much higher. I believe your IX as it sits now, has a good 20 more WHP left in it with more tuning.
The tuning in the BR 330 IX Evo is totally designed about the IX ecu.

It is imporant to realize that the Mustang Dyno at Buschur Racing reads very low in relationship to other dynos.


I have dynoed many 2003 cars with stage III (cams and full exahust) which have produced power in the same range as this 330 IX which basically only has a flash, intake and cat back exhuast.

I have been tuning evos on a daily basis for two and a half years now and this Evo IX was the most fun to drive, best balanced and most refined evo I have driven to date. The Evo IX is am amazing car - certainly the best evo to date. The BR 330 IX package is a real compliment to the IX, it feels like factory. Like the BR 330 and 350 2005 car that came before the IX version - a full factory warranty is included and the cars retail all emissions capability.

Driving the IX the car is more refined, quieter, crisper and the suspension is greatly enhanced. The TQ is more immediate and gives a feel of a much parger motor.

It was a blast to drive.

270 whp is abig number on Buschur's mustang dyno and when you drive this car ion the road you realize just how fast it is with the few parts it has
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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i read that too... and, to be honest, i am not sure. i think Al would be best to speak to this.
I have been tuning with Ecutek on subaru STI's for a long time now.

Of course it takes a couple of days on the dyno to figure out all the inter-relationships between the various ecu maps in the IX - its certainaly no great accomplishment to list the maps which Ecutek has already identified, organized and labled in the Ecutek softwear.


There are a few differences between the Ecutek Flash Evo for 2003 - 2005 which I have already been usuing for the past year and the new updated Evo IX maps. However, with my experience working on the subaru mapping on the STI which is greatly more complicated and with working on Flash Evo - the new IX is really not that much of a diffculty.

The main thing iks that it is a very high quality ecu with lots of tuning potential.
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