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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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I hope it works out man. I was thinking about that 9 as well. I know mits roadside sucks, I waited 3 hours for them last week when my car died.
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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You're burning it brother!
Turn on the fan all the way, see if you smell it or your eyes burn (only for 30 secs is necessary). This will indicate if it's inside or outside the motor.
If it's inside, chrisw is correct... you need to replace the headgasket and upgrade to ARPs.

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Damn this sucks I dont know if they will replace the head gasket. the car is at a friends house right now so i cant turn the fan on..Will check tomorrow
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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damn...that sucks,i didnt get any problem with my car yet and hopefully it dont happen to me.anyways if you are getting an ix,sell me your c/f lip if the price is right.good luck!...
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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for your entertainment - i had a bad spray patter in cylinder 3 of 5 in an audi I had a few years back... It got so hot in the cylinder, it callapsed the metal .005 inches... My oil and coolant burned fast, too fast to mix. took the head off and learned I was melting the head... Spraypattern and volume tested the injectors.... Let's say that was my lesson in the cooling value of fuel.

You likely do not have this problem, so it is simply for you to laugh at. Had it been in the 4g63, I would have toasted it, the material b/w the oil and coolant channels is a fraction of what Audi engineers.
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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My water pump blew again i think!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!! Last night i was driving and i see the temp gauge going up, i pop the hood and theres coolant everywhere. I know theres a tsb out for this and supposedly has a new part number with a new pump to take care of the problem. Im gona have the car towed to the dealer tomorrow, btw mitsu road side sucks ***!! Last time they didnt want to tow the car bc of my cf lip so i ended up paying $60 for my friends tow service to take it to the dealer. If the wp fails a 3rd time, im gona lemon law the car and get a Evo IX
Lemon Law is not that easy to excise. I don't wanna post my story on the 911T, so go figure!
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Lemon Law will not be an option on a Water Pump blown 3x.
If you can bring the car back as close to stock as possible, you have a shot. Do what ever it takes to get that boost gauge to be as close to srock setup as possible.

If they absolutely refuse to work with you, I recommend talking to the district manager and working out a deal in which you pay for the part/they cover service.

At the very worst, you have to pay. I don't know the cost of doing a head gasket swap and head studs on these cars as a stand alone service... But, it gives you an opportunity to get other work done to the car sinc the head'll be off.

Lastly, the bandaid option is get a new H20pump, turn boost way down and drive until you have some cash to do it right (and they won't cover it of course).

At least you're not melting your engine!
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 4cdndctn
Lemon Law will not be an option on a Water Pump blown 3x.
If you can bring the car back as close to stock as possible, you have a shot. Do what ever it takes to get that boost gauge to be as close to srock setup as possible.

If they absolutely refuse to work with you, I recommend talking to the district manager and working out a deal in which you pay for the part/they cover service.

At the very worst, you have to pay. I don't know the cost of doing a head gasket swap and head studs on these cars as a stand alone service... But, it gives you an opportunity to get other work done to the car sinc the head'll be off.

Lastly, the bandaid option is get a new H20pump, turn boost way down and drive until you have some cash to do it right (and they won't cover it of course).

At least you're not melting your engine!
Well, the dealer i take my car to are really cool, and ive never had any problems with getting warranty work done. I will find out for sure the problem tomorrow hopefuly, when i tow the car to the dealer and they look at it.I was planning on doing head studs but only when i was gona upgrade the cams.

The lemon law here in FL states that if the dealer or manufacxturer cannot fix the problem with in 3 tries, i have the right to get my money back or they have to give me a new car. I dont want to jump to conclusions just yet til i find out whats wrong with the car. I hope its not the head gasket, the car still drives fine. I checked the oil and it looked normal. Well see what happens
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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I believe that's a blanket US Law... Boosting to 23+lbs will likely ensure Lemon Law is not an option. They don't Lemon without performing a Root Cause Analysis (like an autopsy). They will know the car is running more boost than was intended with OEM parts the same way a few ppl have diagnosed the likely cause over a simple thread. Your best bet is to avoid Lemon conversations, get it as close to stock as possible, look frustrated and play dumb. You're more fortunate than most in that you have a dealership that will work with you.

Walk away with a lesson learned - Consider tolerances/threshold and safety when upgrading. Ask whoever it is that you buy from what you can do to optimize sustainability. For example, a lot of guys (myself included) have put larger fuel injectors on their cars. It's often not needed, but do you want stock injectors running at 100% or aftermarket running at a stable 80%? A little $$ up front can save you a lot of $$ in the end. The same example as above goes for intercoolers. I could have a stock setup, but I have an aftermarket for sustainability, not performence. This is where German cars are great, they are heavily over-engineered (in many instances).

Good luck tomorrow - please post a summary of events!
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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When it's cold out, you will run higher boost levels. Or at least, your turbo is running much more efficently than in hot weather. So IMHO, your head gasket is nearly toast because it sounds like you are stretching your head bolts (try searching on this). At 23 psi on pump gas you are pushing that poor motor pretty hard. Quite honestly, I am not surprised that you are having problems.
detonation or lack of engine/timing control is what blows headgaskets the majority of time.. not a 16g's boost pressure!!!!(it's possible but i doubt it) if there is coolant everywhere where is it coming from??? just look?? is your coolant low in the radiator??? where is it going???
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Dude, hate to say it but maybe you should:

1.Keep your cars stock
2.Drive less aggressively.
3.Go to driving school
4.Pay to play

Choose one or all of the above.

I seem to remember you having issues with a certain Subaru, then an '03 Evo and now your '05? This might be a sign, I don't know.
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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I don't think chrisw is stating that boost blew the gasket. I believe he is saying that it's a case of improper head bolts rendering the head gasket ineffective - I would agree with that. 23.5lbs with stock bolts is really pushing it. I agree with you regarding what blows head gaskets, but I don't think that is what thinks the issue is, it may be a symptom though...
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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CHECK THE COOLENT HOSE THAT RUNS FROM THE ENGINE THE THE TURBO THERES A RECALL ON THEM MINE BLEW @ LIKE 1500 mi. a week before i got it in the mail. ITS like a 90 degree bend and the hose is only like 8 inches long.
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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From what i could see, the coolant was leaking from the passenger side, by the side of the motor. The 1st time this happened, we were putting some coolant in, and we could hear it coming right out as it was being put in. Ill find out tomorrow for sure..

OH!! I forgot to mention now that i think of it. When i start the car in the mornings, i can hear fluids like if something was leaking but once the car warms up it doesnt do it anymore, dont know if this is normal..

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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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Car will be towed to the dealer soon, will find out what broke later on today. I will post as soon as i hear something
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 05 EVO RS
CHECK THE COOLENT HOSE THAT RUNS FROM THE ENGINE THE THE TURBO THERES A RECALL ON THEM MINE BLEW @ LIKE 1500 mi. a week before i got it in the mail. ITS like a 90 degree bend and the hose is only like 8 inches long.
WHen your blew, was the coolant coming out from the passenger side of the car? Side of the motor?
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