anyone change clutch in 05 MR yet?
anyone change clutch in 05 MR yet?
hi, i'm getting ready to install a new clutch and flywheel in my MR and was wondering if the install would be the same as in the how to section for the 03-04, or does the 6-speed and ACD make a difference? does the T.C. need removed or disconnected and put to the side because i've heard removing it requires a trip to mitsu to bleed the ACD and get it functioning properly again. also, in the how to on the clutch install there's a step to use a slide hammer and a bolt to pull a rod out of the tranny, could anyone elaborate on this step? i have a shop manual, but it doesn't explain this real well either. any help or tips from the evom community would be greatly appreciated!
I have an ACT in my 05 MR, but I didn't do it myself. It does require removal of the TC, and you do have to use the Mitsu MUT-III tool to bleed the ACD afterwards. I believe some 05 owners have had their clutch done without bleeding the ACD, but that's not recommended.
There are a few people that already replaced the clutch, go to www.evolutionmr.net, there is a guy that replaced the clutch on his MR after 3 weeks from the day he bought it.
Myself being a guy that goes to the track and having ran more than 70 passes already I went to the local dealer to ask how much it would be the labor and parts.
The local dealer told me that it was a 12hour job on the MR which happens to be one hour extra than the regular 5 speed Evo.
The guy told me that it was a very difficult job and he explained me that if I decided to replace the clutch with other shop that be aware that you need some special tools.
He also mentioned that the car has to be in the dealer for two full days.
The prices were around:
$1000 for labor roughly 12 hours
$700 for new clutch assembly and new flywheel
He mentioned that the flywheel "has to be replaced everytime you do the clutch", off course this is not true but however it is recommended.
This guy told me that they can install an aftermarket clutch for me though..
I hope that helps you to get an idea of the cost and hours involved. The mistubishi dealer that I consult with is O'rilleys in Speedway ave in Tucson,AZ.
Good luck!!
Myself being a guy that goes to the track and having ran more than 70 passes already I went to the local dealer to ask how much it would be the labor and parts.
The local dealer told me that it was a 12hour job on the MR which happens to be one hour extra than the regular 5 speed Evo.
The guy told me that it was a very difficult job and he explained me that if I decided to replace the clutch with other shop that be aware that you need some special tools.
He also mentioned that the car has to be in the dealer for two full days.
The prices were around:
$1000 for labor roughly 12 hours
$700 for new clutch assembly and new flywheel
He mentioned that the flywheel "has to be replaced everytime you do the clutch", off course this is not true but however it is recommended.
This guy told me that they can install an aftermarket clutch for me though..
I hope that helps you to get an idea of the cost and hours involved. The mistubishi dealer that I consult with is O'rilleys in Speedway ave in Tucson,AZ.
Good luck!!
Like Warrtalon, I have also had the clutch changed on my MR also with an ACT. You need a special tool to bleed the ACD line. I also had a reputable shop do the install.
RRE charged me 500 for the install and 50 to bleed the line. They re-used an resurfaced the stock flywheel.
RRE charged me 500 for the install and 50 to bleed the line. They re-used an resurfaced the stock flywheel.
can you drive the car to the dealer after installing the clutch to have the ACD bled or would it cause damage? i figure the fluid is only to set tarmac, gravel, snow, so you could drive it to the dealer and just not be able to switch settings, anyone have a definite answer? if not i guess i could have it towed to the dealer for the bleed, it's still cheaper than the $1000 labor the dealer charges. or razorlab could inform us all on how to bleed the ACD without the mitsu tool
if not anyone know any reputable shops in the york,PA area that can do the clutch cheaper than a grand?
if not anyone know any reputable shops in the york,PA area that can do the clutch cheaper than a grand?
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My question would be... Can the TC be unbolted, & supported to the side, so that draining & bleeding would then not be required...
Crap.. When I had my Talon, I could pull the tranny, & put in a new clutch & put it all back togeather, ready to drive in 2.5 hours, withought air tools.. The good ol' days.
Seems to me, that certain things would make this entire job easier.. Relocated battery to trunk, so battery & trunk would not be in the way, making it WAY easier to unbolt the top 1/2 of the engine.
Are the axles still just held in to the tranny like the early DSM's, with the little snap-in clips?
Crap.. When I had my Talon, I could pull the tranny, & put in a new clutch & put it all back togeather, ready to drive in 2.5 hours, withought air tools.. The good ol' days.
Seems to me, that certain things would make this entire job easier.. Relocated battery to trunk, so battery & trunk would not be in the way, making it WAY easier to unbolt the top 1/2 of the engine.
Are the axles still just held in to the tranny like the early DSM's, with the little snap-in clips?
Originally Posted by talon2evo
My question would be... Can the TC be unbolted, & supported to the side, so that draining & bleeding would then not be required...
Crap.. When I had my Talon, I could pull the tranny, & put in a new clutch & put it all back togeather, ready to drive in 2.5 hours, withought air tools.. The good ol' days.
Seems to me, that certain things would make this entire job easier.. Relocated battery to trunk, so battery & trunk would not be in the way, making it WAY easier to unbolt the top 1/2 of the engine.
Are the axles still just held in to the tranny like the early DSM's, with the little snap-in clips?
Crap.. When I had my Talon, I could pull the tranny, & put in a new clutch & put it all back togeather, ready to drive in 2.5 hours, withought air tools.. The good ol' days.
Seems to me, that certain things would make this entire job easier.. Relocated battery to trunk, so battery & trunk would not be in the way, making it WAY easier to unbolt the top 1/2 of the engine.
Are the axles still just held in to the tranny like the early DSM's, with the little snap-in clips?
I myself haven't done one of these installs in an 05 and up yet. My 03 was a pain in the butt the first time, but the last 2 I did were simple enough. Just like anything else, you start finding shortcuts which save you time, while keeping everything in the install legit. I am sure there is a way to do the install without bleeding the system, though its not recommended (just like everything else the dealer says). They just want their share of the profit times 2!!
The front axles for the 03-04 are a bit different than the DSM's. The driver's side axle is connected to the tranny, which then connects to the transfer case via a connecting shaft that goes through the tranny itself. The passenger axle is directly connected to the transfer case itself. I haven't seen under an 05-current yet, so I can't confirm if it has the same set up. But I doubt they would change the drivetrain setup just to accomondate for the new hydralic set system.
Most of the pre DSM guys (like myself) we like to get creative and do things ourselves, even though we can pay someone else to do the work. But for those on the boards that do not prefer this route, there are PLENTY of good shops out there that can do this job for a decent price...!!!!
I curios as to why the TC has to be removed. On an 03-04', the TC stays up and is just pushed over and out of the way.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I have an ACT in my 05 MR, but I didn't do it myself. It does require removal of the TC, and you do have to use the Mitsu MUT-III tool to bleed the ACD afterwards. I believe some 05 owners have had their clutch done without bleeding the ACD, but that's not recommended.
Originally Posted by Drifto
I curios as to why the TC has to be removed. On an 03-04', the TC stays up and is just pushed over and out of the way.
My dad's MR clutch had to be replaced after only 5000 miles. When he picked it up after 4 days he noticed that all three ACD lights were on so he drove it right back and they kept it for another 2 days. They did cover it though. I had my stock clutch on my 03 for 35k miles with no problems.
well, i got in touch with john sheppard and he informed me that if the T.C. is removed you can drive it to the dealer to have the ACD bled as long as you disable the ACD until it's bled.
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