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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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The guys out here recommend the AEM EMS system...but I live in MD but vehicle is registered in NY...what may work for the Marylnad, D.C and VA guys may not work for me..due to N.Y standards

I sent Jamie at WORKS an email/PM, so waiting for them to get back at me...

Ive been reading alot about the ECU+ also and probably get help with it...I guess the tuners are out in the VA area.

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Originally Posted by IEXCELR8
I would go with an AEM-and get your ecu flashed(ecutek) for emissions( if you can pass anyway) Also why not ask ISP?
Man you have quiet a few works parts why not call them?
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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I run HKS F-CON V-PRO and It is amazing, car ran like stock all while running 11's.
the only problem is the closest person to me who tunes it is 4 hours away.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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No offense...but this entire thread id garbage...You want to pass NY emissions with a stroker motor and HKS 272's... More and more places in ny are getting awd rollers to use to test awd cars for emissions. You have far more to worry about than just the EMS.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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What about ecuteck? That is a flash software. If you want more info contact Nick at Precision dyno tuning. They are very good to work with. Also with the Ecuteck you don't have to worry about it interfering with your emmissions.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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I didn't read through the whole thread so someone probably already said it but...
AEM EMS with a good tune and spend the couple hundred to get your stock ECU flashed for your mods.

EMS is plug and play, so just unplug it, plug your stock ECU in...drive for 75 miles...get car inspected, and plug the EMS back in. If you delete the MAF when you do the EMS install, just throw your stock intake back on for inspection.

An hour out of your life once a year is nothing compared to having a great engine management system on your car the rest of the time, especially considering the level of modification which you're planning.

-Mike

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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Gott des Kriege
truthfully it usealy best to leave timing where it is. Is messing with timing and get a few hp more worth your block popping. not to me. like i said map ecu is for people that want there car as a daily driver not a race car. i mean weve built countless amount of car making over 600 whp just using map ecu. but each to his own.
I think you misunderstood my post. With the timing control I have with ECU Plus, I was able to *take away* timing so I wouldn't knock on 91 octane **** water here in California. In turn, I made more power, safer. That is a good daily driver.

Maybe you don't understand the power of timing control.

That feature is gold in my book.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gott des Kriege
truthfully it usealy best to leave timing where it is. Is messing with timing and get a few hp more worth your block popping. not to me. like i said map ecu is for people that want there car as a daily driver not a race car. i mean weve built countless amount of car making over 600 whp just using map ecu. but each to his own.
What are you talking about.. Tuning timing is optimal for making your car reliable. From what I understand the stock ecu is very conservative already. If it is tuned right you wont have any problems. I am also very sure timing can probably count for more than a few hp..
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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I think you misunderstood my post. With the timing control I have with ECU Plus, I was able to *take away* timing so I wouldn't knock on 91 octane **** water here in California. In turn, I made more power, safer. That is a good daily driver.

Maybe you don't understand the power of timing control.

That feature is gold in my book.
So you can pull timing out of ecu plus?? Can you also add timing ??
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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So you can pull timing out of ecu plus?? Can you also add timing ??
Yup, goes both ways. Timing add/subtract in four load points from idle to 8000 rpm in 250 rpm increments.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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No, I know timing can help im just looking at it for the customer who wants to do everything themself. I dont want you think i coming across as if timing doesnt do any good as i know it can and does. But, you get someone who doenst know its better for them to leave it alone. As for this guys situation having his factory ecu flashed would be the best. If he is worried about emissions. i like map ecu but it wont be for everybody just like the rest of the ems' out there.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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I would find a reputable tuner that is reasonable close to you (http://www.turbotrix.com/ comes to mind) and talk to them about your car and see what they recommend. There are ways to get around emissions worries ... first and foremost among them is to register your car in a state/municipality that does not require smog testing, other options have been mentioned.

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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Who pissed in your cornflakes?
A forum is where people ask questions, get answers, and learn...

keep your negative bull$h!t in your space!

If you feel this thread is garbage..go somewhere else and post your comments there!

but thanks for the info on emissions testing and strokers & cams...I didnt know that.


Originally Posted by 2GDSM
No offense...but this entire thread id garbage...You want to pass NY emissions with a stroker motor and HKS 272's... More and more places in ny are getting awd rollers to use to test awd cars for emissions. You have far more to worry about than just the EMS.

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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Inn-Tune
I didn't read through the whole thread so someone probably already said it but...
AEM EMS with a good tune and spend the couple hundred to get your stock ECU flashed for your mods.

EMS is plug and play, so just unplug it, plug your stock ECU in...drive for 75 miles...get car inspected, and plug the EMS back in. If you delete the MAF when you do the EMS install, just throw your stock intake back on for inspection.

An hour out of your life once a year is nothing compared to having a great engine management system on your car the rest of the time, especially considering the level of modification which you're planning.

-Mike

+1 as said in post 10.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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I just installed my ECU+ a few weeks ago, and have loved it so far. Very user friendl. Just finished my fuel map, and I'm now working on the timing maps. Good luck with what ever you pick.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Okay so its looking like the ECU+

and also the UTEC was put back in the game and recommended by one of the vendors who posted this in my team forum Evo-NY. I had to question the post made by "2GDSM"...so here is the answer straight out of New York! (see below) Once again thanks guys for the debates/ answers...youre helping me understand what i need...thanks


Quote: (from a vendor from the N.Y area.)
Well, NYS has no dyno for inspections...in fact, its not even a sniffer test. But, you have to plug into the ODBII port, which will now be rendered useless by an AEM. A UTEC would make it work, as would a flash for example. NO CEL = pass.

A stroker has nothing to do with the emissions...quite frankly the cams might not either (especially with gears,where you would be able to advance the intake timing and net out a fairly smooth idle). It will all come down to the tune
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