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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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I won't be the first, but I will definitely be in the club this year.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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I got cosworth head studs?!?
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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wow...10,500 rpms. That alone is worth the pricetag
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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mine is on the way! test results to follow I'm selling my ported head with complete ferrea valvetrain as well.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Evolved Monkey
wow...10,500 rpms. That alone is worth the pricetag
I'm not sure that's all there is to it. Wouldn't it also require beefed up pistons, connecting rods, ignition, and basically lots of other stuff?
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Evolved Monkey
wow...10,500 rpms. That alone is worth the pricetag
Go ahead and try that with your stock oil pump...before you know it your crankcase have a gaping hole where the connecting rods made a hasty exit.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Boost
A P&P with all new valves, retainers and springs is about $2,000 grand.
You're in exactly the right ballpark. I have Ferrea valvetrain & P&P and that's around what I paid.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Boost
I would like to see some results from this. Just because it's Cosworth, it doesn't automatically make it great. Not bashing, but I would just like to see real world results.

On the other hand $3,800 is not too bad if you get a brand new head and all the valves, retainers and springs.

A P&P with all new valves, retainers and springs is about $2,000 grand.

If you got the Cosworth head AND sold your used head for about $1,200 it would be fairly close in price.
just because it's cosworth does mean it's good. they don't put out bad stuff like some vendors. they're not a vendor... they're a genuine article racing company. i mean ****, they're at hte pinacle of motorsports... so yes... everything they make is good.

the first people to have it are prolly works... they have a works cosworth now...

Originally Posted by thatsMR2u
cosworth head, with jun stroker on bottom end (which uses cosworth pistons)...wet dreams
? **** that... cosworth head with cosworth stroker plus cosworth pistons etc.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by thatsMR2u
cosworth head, with jun stroker on bottom end (which uses cosworth pistons)...wet dreams

true that!
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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just hold tight, works should be doing a full review of the cosworth head over the next two weeks. rumour has it that we may even see a stroked forged crank (2.2) and cams from cosworth as well. for those with deep pockets you'll be able to get a complete cosworth crate motor, possibly even broken in on their engine dyno in cali prior to shipping. yummy
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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Does inconel not make intake valves? Wondering why they did not use the 2400F valves for the intake side also... It is understandable that the backside of the valves would be cooler, but the cylinder facing side would be pretty damn hot also... Interesting.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Does inconel not make intake valves? Wondering why they did not use the 2400F valves for the intake side also... It is understandable that the backside of the valves would be cooler, but the cylinder facing side would be pretty damn hot also... Interesting.
I thought inconel was just a certain alloy of steel that is very tolerable to heat stress. It is very expensive. There is not a real need to make the intake valves of inconel because most of the heat will be flowing out of exhaust valves on every rotation. Plus the intake valves get cooled by the flow of the fresh intake air.

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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Ah-ha... Damn it sounds like a brand name.

Here is what I dug up...

Description
Alloy 617 is a solid-solution, nickel-chromium-cobalt-molydenum alloy with an exceptional combination of high-temperature strength and oxidation resistance. The alloy also has excellent resistance to a wide range of corrosive environment, and it is readily formed and welded by conventional techniques.
The high nickel and chromium contents make the alloy resistant to a variety of both reducing and oxidizing media. The aluminum, in conjunction with the chromium, provides oxidation resistance at high temperatures. Solid-solution strengthening is imparted by the cobalt and molydenum.


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Application
The combination of high strength and oxidation resistance at temperatures over 1800°F makes alloy 617 an attractive material for such components as ducting, combustion cans, and transition liner in both aircraft, and land based gas turbines. Because of its resistance to high-temperature corrosion, the alloy is used for catalyst-grid supports in the production of nitric acid, for heat-treating baskets, and for reduction boats in the refining of molybdenum. Alloy 617 also offers attractive properties for components of power-generating plants, both fossil-fueled and nuclear.


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Physical Properties
The alloy's low density, compared with tungsten-containing alloys of similar strength, is significant in applications such as aircraft gas turbines where high strength-to-weight ratio is desirable.

Density, lb/cu in............................................... 0.302
kg/cu m................................................ 8360
Melting Range, °F.................................... 2430/2510
°C................................... 1332-1377
Specific heat at 78°F (26°C)
Btu/lb-°F.... ............................. 0.100
J/kg-°C........................................ 419
Electrical Resistivity at 78°F (26°C)
ohm-cir mil/ft............................. 736
æê-m........................................ 1.22
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nitz
just hold tight, works should be doing a full review of the cosworth head over the next two weeks. rumour has it that we may even see a stroked forged crank (2.2) and cams from cosworth as well. for those with deep pockets you'll be able to get a complete cosworth crate motor, possibly even broken in on their engine dyno in cali prior to shipping. yummy
You are correct... I spoke with Hmmmmm cant remember his name at Cosworth but he did say that a 2.0 block is going to be released in 6-8 weeks and cams also a stroker block with their forged crank. "Long block packages also"$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $ Should be some good stuff. I know 2 people in AZ that are going to install their full Subaru motors, should be interesting.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fimotorsports
mine is on the way! test results to follow I'm selling my ported head with complete ferrea valvetrain as well.
your head is mine danimal, and i want to see some numbers asap!!
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