To all those with concerns about the Forge UNOS MBC!
ok. i have a problem. i think. maby not. anyways i have this wonderfull part on my car. but all of a sudden what i go wot and boost go's up to 20psi. my defi d gauge has a lil twitch in the neddle on the way up. its not smooth no more going up. . but i dont feel any power loose i just thought it was od. any idea.
Originally Posted by Thegame
Okay, since I was the one to bring it up again, I'll call you out on your "the unos is not faulty." First off, the unos IS faulty if there is any issue with it. And it just so happens that being dirty is definately an issue with a product. It could've blown up all of our car's! How is that not "faulty?" Secondly, a bleed hole being dirty and clogged will never cause an overboost spike under any circumstances. The purpose of a bleed hole is to bleed off boost pressure so that the wastegate does not see it. With a clogged bleed hole, the Wastegate see's all boost pressure!!! So without a bleed hole, the wastegate will 100% open much sooner than if you had an unclogged bleed hole. The real issue is the ball getting stuck in the head of the mbc! That is the issue! That will cause no boost to reach the wastegate, therefore, it will never open and the turbo will continue to spool up until you let off of the throttle. Or your engine blows up because you bought a $hitty a$$ product!
Originally Posted by Thegame
All I want to do from here, is have you guys admit that your product is faulty. That's all. I don't want to see anyone else waste their money as I have.
A FEW of the units have had a problem that is quite easily fixed and we have offered every available opportunity to yourself and everyone else to have it resolved by cleaning/repairing the problem, replacing the unit, or refunding the entire purchase price.
There is nothing left to debate.
If the cleaning and greasing did not solve the problem for you, then the unit can be returned (to the place where it was originally purchased from) for an exchange or a refund.
If your not happy with any of those options, I don't know how to help you.
No, I'm satisfied with those options. You just have to understand that I'm a little upset that I bought this item and the "fix" will not solve my problems. Honestly Mike, I want you to personally check out this mbc when it gets returned. There seems to be more going on than a clogged bleed hole.
Last edited by Thegame; Mar 14, 2006 at 12:17 PM.
Originally Posted by Thegame
No, I'm satisfied with those options. You just have to understand that I'm a little upset that I bought this item and the "fix" will not solve my problems. Honestly Mike, I want you to personally check out this mbc when it gets returned. There seems to be more going on than a clogged bleed hole.
Mike, you a #1 as a vendor
It's too bad that some customers just want more than they truely deserve.BTW, FYI Jim if you want less to almost no boost spike, just plum it off of the turbo outlet tube rather than the bypass vavle/intake. I did both and got no boost spike with the turbo outlet tube.
Originally Posted by Thegame Okay, since I was the one to bring it up again, I'll call you out on your "the unos is not faulty." First off, the unos IS faulty if there is any issue with it. And it just so happens that being dirty is definately an issue with a product. It could've blown up all of our car's! How is that not "faulty?" Secondly, a bleed hole being dirty and clogged will never cause an overboost spike under any circumstances. The purpose of a bleed hole is to bleed off boost pressure so that the wastegate does not see it. With a clogged bleed hole, the Wastegate see's all boost pressure!!! So without a bleed hole, the wastegate will 100% open much sooner than if you had an unclogged bleed hole. The real issue is the ball getting stuck in the head of the mbc! That is the issue! That will cause no boost to reach the wastegate, therefore, it will never open and the turbo will continue to spool up until you let off of the throttle. Or your engine blows up because you bought a $hitty a$$ product!
Originally Posted by mike@forge
We've offered you every opportunity and option to have the issue remedied via multiple methods. What you decide to do from here is up to you.
Originally Posted by evilevo2006
ok. i have a problem. i think. maby not. anyways i have this wonderfull part on my car. but all of a sudden what i go wot and boost go's up to 20psi. my defi d gauge has a lil twitch in the neddle on the way up. its not smooth no more going up. . but i dont feel any power loose i just thought it was od. any idea.
anyone. mike???
Mike -was it just a bad batch of them or could this problem be with any one you have made? Also, is there really the possibility of damage to my engine/blowing it up if the gunk isnt properly removed form the UNOS? Mine just arrived and its not installed yet... still in the box...
Originally Posted by Jo & Joey
Mike offered for you to return it and they'll send you a new one OR your money back. How can that be anything but just about the best customer service ever?! Holy cow, I mean do you want the company backrupt? Again the "fix" he is offering is you to return it and they'll send you a new one OR your money back. That is bare none more than curtious and a hell of a lot more than most vendors will do. HKS #$%#$% won't do stuff like that. Quit being so dificult! I mean honestly what is it you really want here? And how can you say you've wasted your money IF YOU GET YOUR MONEY BACK! Sheeeesh.
Mike, you a #1 as a vendor It's too bad that some customers just want more than they truely deserve.
BTW, FYI Jim if you want less to almost no boost spike, just plum it off of the turbo outlet tube rather than the bypass vavle/intake. I did both and got no boost spike with the turbo outlet tube.
Mike, you a #1 as a vendor
It's too bad that some customers just want more than they truely deserve.BTW, FYI Jim if you want less to almost no boost spike, just plum it off of the turbo outlet tube rather than the bypass vavle/intake. I did both and got no boost spike with the turbo outlet tube.
Its hooked up off the outlet tube. I dont mind the spike, its only at 23 for maybe 250-500rpm.
Originally Posted by evilevo2006
ok. i have a problem. i think. maby not. anyways i have this wonderfull part on my car. but all of a sudden what i go wot and boost go's up to 20psi. my defi d gauge has a lil twitch in the neddle on the way up. its not smooth no more going up. . but i dont feel any power loose i just thought it was od. any idea.
- If you have the MBC sharing an intake manifold reference with the BOV line, this is a "stutter" in the operation of the BOV as the MBC "actuates".
- If the MBC is referenced from the turbo outlet nipple, and not sharing an intake manifold reference with the BOV, then the BOV may be leaking at a given point. (whichever valve you may have)
- It may be the gauge and a problem with it's operation.
Originally Posted by DJ Brett B
Mike -was it just a bad batch of them or could this problem be with any one you have made? Also, is there really the possibility of damage to my engine/blowing it up if the gunk isnt properly removed form the UNOS? Mine just arrived and its not installed yet... still in the box...
Since we have changed our production and assembly procedures for this product, it should not be an issue from this point forward, however, if anyone has a problem, the same options of a "repair" (or fix), replacement, or refund are available to EVERYONE.
Last edited by Mike@Forge; Mar 14, 2006 at 04:09 PM.
Originally Posted by Mike@Forge
This could be potentially a few things.
- If you have the MBC sharing an intake manifold reference with the BOV line, this is a "stutter" in the operation of the BOV as the MBC "actuates".
- If the MBC is referenced from the turbo outlet nipple, and not sharing an intake manifold reference with the BOV, then the BOV may be leaking at a given point. (whichever valve you may have)
- It may be the gauge and a problem with it's operation.
- If you have the MBC sharing an intake manifold reference with the BOV line, this is a "stutter" in the operation of the BOV as the MBC "actuates".
- If the MBC is referenced from the turbo outlet nipple, and not sharing an intake manifold reference with the BOV, then the BOV may be leaking at a given point. (whichever valve you may have)
- It may be the gauge and a problem with it's operation.
i have the mbc install as this. side of mbc going to wga, bodum of mbc is going to the turbo. car pulls like it always has. only dose the twitching here and there. no spike. just started no to long ago. how do i fix this problem
I was one of the first to post about this problem. This is why the service (Mike) at Forge is good: At first, I was pissed and posted quickly about it. Basically, Mike had to hear me b*tch about it online. Then, just a few days ago, I PM'd him about my story, and told him I had it installed used and needed the stiff spring. The spring arrived today at my door at no charge. Just for that, I'm definately giving this mbc a second try. Now my queston is, how do I take the UNOS apart? I want to make sure I do it perfectly. And Mike, thanks again.
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Just to give you guys some figures we have now sold over 1000 + world wide with 5-6 issues that we have fixed , we have upped the QC on the assembly process to try to eradicate all failures .
To reiterate Mikes post , If you are not 100 % happy with the MBC you can return it for a full refund !
To reiterate Mikes post , If you are not 100 % happy with the MBC you can return it for a full refund !