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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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dunno. We would need to see the graphs to make any sense of it. I hope those are MD or DD numbers.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrown
Is it just me? Or do those numbers sound low to anyone else? I would expect each of them to be at least 50hp higher with that kind of setup. (assuming std mods like cams, injectors, exhaust, fmic, etc.)
Agreed. It does sound a bit on the low side.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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numbers are on a dynojet(turbotrix) and are low because im still running the stock intake mani. the wastegate wouldnt hold the boost over 32.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 1.8t
Awesome. Nrcooled, what rpm does JAM recommend twisting the stroker too?
No higher then 7500RPM
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nrcooled
No higher then 7500RPM
Then the 50 trim should be awesome for that. You'll probably run out of turbo before you run out of motor, but not by too much. It should hit almost like a donkey kick ... and way down low in the revs, too.

I would guess low 400's at the wheels on pump, maybe around 500 on meth/racegas
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by evilrs
numbers are on a dynojet(turbotrix) and are low because im still running the stock intake mani. the wastegate wouldnt hold the boost over 32.
The mani is not gonna be a huge difference, but fixing the WG will help. I'm guessing it's not a TiAL? Or do you just have the wrong spring?
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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Here's the full update:

After a while of running the car on the setup listed above I decided to go with the VIP 50 Trim kit. I had in my mind that this is the perfect stroker turbo. Early spool and power all the way to redline is what I anticipated...I was not wrong. I was a bit hesitant to get the non-BB 50 Trim because I was worried about initial spool and also transitional response but this is not an issue at ALL.

I was tuned as seen in this thread http://forums.dcevoclub.com/showthread.php?t=6451

The results were unimpressive (the car was damn fast but there was definately something amiss). Well, I brought the car back to VIP so the guys there could figure out the issue. The culprit was a leaky intercooler. There were two big leaks on both sides of the intercooler which was giving me my boost taper on the topend.

The only changes I have made to the setup is ditch the UTEC (it's still connected but running on map 0 so I can use the SES Knock Lite feature and logging)

As the car sits, it is running 25psi ALL THE WAY TO REDLINE with no drops between shifts. The car is a true beast and the experience has been amazing. I will not win any car shows with my Evo nor will I win any dyno wars but that isn't what I set out to do. I wanted a pump only monster that was daily drivable. I have that in spades!!!

Props go out to JAM, VIP, and all the folks on DCEvoClub who hooked me up with advice and a great place to vent.

BTW - no dyno runs have been made after the fix but we're pretty damn sure that the car is well past the 400hp mark.

Some of you may wonder why I didn't just put the AMS 50 Trim kit on and it's because I got separated shortly after purchace and had to sell it to recoup some funds.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Glad to hear it! JAM is such an awesome shop (I live a mile a way from them). They are probably the best machine shop on the east coast when it comes to 4G63's, perhaps they are the best altogether! Sucks to hear your BR intercooler leaked, thats so disappointing when you pay that much for a FMIC just to have it leak!

Originally Posted by nrcooled
Here's the full update:

After a while of running the car on the setup listed above I decided to go with the VIP 50 Trim kit. I had in my mind that this is the perfect stroker turbo. Early spool and power all the way to redline is what I anticipated...I was not wrong. I was a bit hesitant to get the non-BB 50 Trim because I was worried about initial spool and also transitional response but this is not an issue at ALL.

I was tuned as seen in this thread http://forums.dcevoclub.com/showthread.php?t=6451

The results were unimpressive (the car was damn fast but there was definately something amiss). Well, I brought the car back to VIP so the guys there could figure out the issue. The culprit was a leaky intercooler. There were two big leaks on both sides of the intercooler which was giving me my boost taper on the topend.

The only changes I have made to the setup is ditch the UTEC (it's still connected but running on map 0 so I can use the SES Knock Lite feature and logging)

As the car sits, it is running 25psi ALL THE WAY TO REDLINE with no drops between shifts. The car is a true beast and the experience has been amazing. I will not win any car shows with my Evo nor will I win any dyno wars but that isn't what I set out to do. I wanted a pump only monster that was daily drivable. I have that in spades!!!

Props go out to JAM, VIP, and all the folks on DCEvoClub who hooked me up with advice and a great place to vent.

BTW - no dyno runs have been made after the fix but we're pretty damn sure that the car is well past the 400hp mark.

Some of you may wonder why I didn't just put the AMS 50 Trim kit on and it's because I got separated shortly after purchace and had to sell it to recoup some funds.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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JAM stroker kit can only go up to 7500rpm? It can't do 8000rpm?
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Old May 8, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by EvolutionBoy67
JAM stroker kit can only go up to 7500rpm? It can't do 8000rpm?
I would have to see the hard numbers, but i'm sure the rod ratio of this 2.3l stroker does not support high revs. Most strokers don't.

CJ
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Old May 8, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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Would like to see some dyno sheets of a 2.3/50 trim. Not sure what would be better a green or the 50trim on a 2.3?
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Old May 8, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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green would spool like a rocket.

i wanna do a build like this only with a jun 2.2 so i can wind it out to 9k and a green.
torquemonster for autoX

nrcooled: looks fantastic man. if you run it again on the dyno let us know.
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