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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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fic 850 lag timing

Hi ,

Has somebody got the injector lag timing for the fuel injector clinic 850cc injectors?

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by spyke
Hi ,

Has somebody got the injector lag timing for the fuel injector clinic 850cc injectors?

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Are you refering to the injector battery offset, or the actual time it takes the fuel to make it down the intake track?
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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the differant voltages,as you need to alter them in the ecu (power fc)

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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by spyke
the differant voltages,as you need to alter them in the ecu (power fc)

thanks
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Here are some voltage against time below for the FIC 850cc, I hope this helps.

Volts uSec
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6v 2550 uSec

7v 2370 uSec

8v 1690 uSec

9v 1300 uSec

10v 1020 uSec

11v 870 uSec

12v 740 uSec

13v 620 uSec

14v 510 uSec

15v 430 uSec

16v 370 uSec
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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gtvevo,

thanks just what I needed

sven

ps where did you have that info from?
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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gtvevo,

thanks just what I needed

sven

ps where did you have that info from?

I run the same injectors on my AEM, But AEM does latency to voltage testing on several different brands and sizes for their EMS.

Glad I could help
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Yep thanks mate,

What turbo are you running?

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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Yep thanks mate,

What turbo are you running?

sven

GT30R (-15 CHRA) TO4S Inlet / .63 Exhaust side.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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I have the same but with a 82 housing.
Do you think the injectors are big enough for a gt35(82 housing) ?

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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spyke
I have the same but with a 82 housing.
Do you think the injectors are big enough for a gt35(82 housing) ?

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They are not big enought for a GT35R with either housing, you will need 1000cc injectors if you are going to push the GT35R to its limit. The 30R will push the 850cc to their limit on a 2.0. If you are turning some really high rpms with either set you still may need to go bigger with the 30R and the 35R.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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** 850cc min **

- S.G. gasoline = 0.69, which = 0.69g/cc
- (0.69g)*(850cc/min) = 586.5g/min
- (586.5g/min) / (454g/lb) = 1.29 lb/min
- (1.29lb/min) * (60min/hr) = 77.5lb/hr
- (77.5lb/hr) / BSFC of 0.55lb/bhp/hr = 141bhp
- (141bhp) * (4 injectors) = 564bhp

Therefore, a 850cc/min injector is good for a theoretical 560+bhp on a 4-cyl engine. What that equates to in 'whp' depends on the dyno. With a Dynojet, whp is probably close to bhp.

Notes:

- A ball-type injector (e.g. FIC, Lucas) will run more efficiently at higher duty cycles than a disc or pintle type (Denso, Bosch, etc.).

- Use of methanol reduces the injector load.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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but they would be at 100% duty...


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Do you have the voltages for the fic 950?

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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but they would be at 100% duty...


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Do you have the voltages for the fic 950?

sven
Sure thing, I have posted the FIC 950cc 90lb 2ohm chart below.

Volts uSec
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6v 2550 uSec

7v 2550 uSec

8v 2080 uSec

9v 1620 uSec

10v 1300 uSec

11v 1050 uSec

12v 880 uSec

13v 750 uSec

14v 650 uSec

15v 570 uSec

16v 510 uSec
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Thanks again,and I presume these are good for the 35R?

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by spyke
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but they would be at 100% duty...
No, they'd be at 80-90% duty.

Why?

Because most people aren't aware that injectors are typically rated at 80-90% duty.
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