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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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that explains his loss in torque. he needs to slap on a 10.5 hotside & watch his torque climb above 400. on the '03, i'm making 368lbs of tq on the stock turbo using a Mustang Dyno that reads waay lower than a dynojet so i can't wait to see how his car runs when he turns up the wick...
Even if there was a 10.5 hotside for this turbo (which I'm pretty sure there is not), you'd never see boost with it.

I'm not quite sure what you meant by td06 compressor either.....I always thought the td number designated turbine side....
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Even if there was a 10.5 hotside for this turbo (which I'm pretty sure there is not), you'd never see boost with it.

I'm not quite sure what you meant by td06 compressor either.....I always thought the td number designated turbine side....
there's actually a 14cm hotside in the TD06 family.
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 4TUN8
I'm not quite sure what you meant by td06 compressor either.....I always thought the td number designated turbine side....
compressor side & turbine side are the same thing. the Greddy TD06 25G kit that most shops are selling here in the US are using the same small 8cm hotside as his 20G but there is also the same kit with a 10cm hotside. RRE made 513whp with the 25G kit on a stock motor if i recall...
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Can you find and link me some info on this, I was searching google and couldn't come up with much.

I found info on the 10cm hotside but not the 14.

Oh, and I don't think you'd make more torque with a bigger hotside, I think you'd make less. Your spool time would be horrible....

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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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there's actually a 14cm hotside in the TD06 family.

Yup. It was used on the syclone and typhoon. The TD06 20g with 14cm turbine housing was a upgrade turbo from Mitsubishi.
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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interesting
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 4TUN8
Can you find and link me some info on this, I was searching google and couldn't come up with much.

I found info on the 10cm hotside but not the 14.

Oh, and I don't think you'd make more torque with a bigger hotside, I think you'd make less. Your spool time would be horrible....
this website is in spanish & they refer to hotsides as A/R. scroll down 1/2 way & you'll see a TD06 14C with a 14cm hotside: http://www.turbomaster.info/catalogo...hi&pagina=TD06

as far as boost goes, it's all in how the car is tuned...
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by housedj
that explains his loss in torque. he needs to slap on a 10.5 hotside & watch his torque climb above 400. on the '03, i'm making 368lbs of tq on the stock turbo using a Mustang Dyno that reads waay lower than a dynojet so i can't wait to see how his car runs when he turns up the wick...
Stock turbo's make a TON of torque. They hit real nice....and then die off as the RPM's climb. The stock turbo usually has a big boost spike which gives you a high torque number and then it falls off a lot as the rpm's climb. This turbo much like most upgraded turbo's don't spike the boost. They hit and just stay there. This makes the car feel a lot more linear through the power band. When looking at dyno numbers you need to look at the area under the curve. Your dyno number is just a peak number. The rest of the curve will tell you how the car is going to run/feel.

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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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was this with ECU+ or TT reflash? Did you have cams when you put down 320whp?
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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TT reflash, had the cams when I made 320
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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TT reflash, had the cams when I made 320
Wow...that is a pretty sweet gain then, although I'm sure ambient temp played a role if you dynoed at 320 in the summer.

Would love to see some pricing info on this TurboTrix
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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i just pm'ed tt on this and another thing.

great job tt and nice car.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by housedj
that explains his loss in torque. he needs to slap on a 10.5 hotside & watch his torque climb above 400. on the '03, i'm making 368lbs of tq on the stock turbo using a Mustang Dyno that reads waay lower than a dynojet so i can't wait to see how his car runs when he turns up the wick...
That MD does not read way lower than a Dynojet. Stop spreading that false information. Do you really think your basic bolt-ons make more than 370wtq on a Dynojet with 104oct? Get real, man.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
That MD does not read way lower than a Dynojet. Stop spreading that false information. Do you really think your basic bolt-ons make more than 370wtq on a Dynojet with 104oct? Get real, man.
i realize u have trouble understanding how u & i are making almost the same power (your hp is higher, my tq is higher) (u use alky & s-afc, i use str8 104) & since your 1/4 time is .7 quicker than mine (different states, temps, elevation, etc...) but the guy that trains shop owners from Mustang Dyno confirmed that the dyno i use is accurate as they verified that the weight of the rollers was correct. maybe u should learn how dynos actually work & how they are calibrated.

& what does your car put down on a dynojet???
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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& since your 1/4 time is .7 quicker than mine (different states, temps, elevation, etc...)
Doesn't matter so much what his ET was, it matters what you both trapped at when talking about power.
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