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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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Curt has stated 33psi was the sweet spot for the 35R. He went fastest MPH at that boost.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TurbotrixRacing
Our 20g kits have always been $2950. There was never any group buy price on the 20g kits. Our 50trim kit was on a group buy price of $3200.

Price games......ok ours is now $2948.


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You and Dave B should keep playing this game. Im sure all EVOm members will enjoy. Soon as someone hits $1999, put me on the list.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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I wish there was a flow test on Dave's Manifold Vs. say an AMS or a TT Manifold. Would the Cast design offer a faster spoolup?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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94awdcoupe, you say alot of things that I don't agree with and your post you just made....hahahahahahahahaha

Fahken EVO,

You are one of the smartest guys on this board, I am not joking. There is a flow test but I won't get into it as educating shops to quote me later so they look like they know which end is up isn't why I am here. Depending on the header design, like I said earlier, there are gains to be had over some cast manifolds which could result in more HP. This depends on other things too but we are only talking about headers now.

As for the cast manifold, I firmly believe that our cast manifold does offer better spool up than a long tube header. I have tuned 2 cars in the last week or so with our GT35R kit on them and both of them made 20 psi at 4500 rpm. On the street it was even faster, this was datalogging on the dyno.

Pruven tested our manifold against some headers and found no additional power with the headers on a GT35R and found that the manifold did outspool the headers. I have not done any back to back testing like this, only passing along his findings.

I did not want to have to build headers for our kits. For one thing I didn't want to worry about warrantying them if they ever broke and for another I new I could make a dependable kit for a good price with minimal overhead in labor by casting a manifold.

I love the way some of the headers look on a car, don't get me wrong. AMS, Shearer and Full race all have some kick *** looking headers. As a matter of fact Shearer is making headers for us for our turbo kits now for people that want to go a header route. Pictures of the kit will be up on the site soon. It adds $700 to the cost of the kit, making it $3695. Headers are warranteed.

Our black car has a header on it I built. I don't like being limited to where the turbo has to go. Building something that kicks butt with no limitations on space is a blast and is what I buit on our black car. Building a GT42R kit that bolts into an EVO and fits is just amazing to me.......there just isn't enough room and making it work is cool. I'll leave that type of kit up to the other guys.

David Buschur
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
94awdcoupe, you say alot of things that I don't agree with and your post you just made....hahahahahahahahaha

Fahken EVO,

You are one of the smartest guys on this board, I am not joking. There is a flow test but I won't get into it as educating shops to quote me later so they look like they know which end is up isn't why I am here. Depending on the header design, like I said earlier, there are gains to be had over some cast manifolds which could result in more HP. This depends on other things too but we are only talking about headers now.

As for the cast manifold, I firmly believe that our cast manifold does offer better spool up than a long tube header. I have tuned 2 cars in the last week or so with our GT35R kit on them and both of them made 20 psi at 4500 rpm. On the street it was even faster, this was datalogging on the dyno.

Pruven tested our manifold against some headers and found no additional power with the headers on a GT35R and found that the manifold did outspool the headers. I have not done any back to back testing like this, only passing along his findings.

I did not want to have to build headers for our kits. For one thing I didn't want to worry about warrantying them if they ever broke and for another I new I could make a dependable kit for a good price with minimal overhead in labor by casting a manifold.

I love the way some of the headers look on a car, don't get me wrong. AMS, Shearer and Full race all have some kick *** looking headers. As a matter of fact Shearer is making headers for us for our turbo kits now for people that want to go a header route. Pictures of the kit will be up on the site soon. It adds $700 to the cost of the kit, making it $3695. Headers are warranteed.

Our black car has a header on it I built. I don't like being limited to where the turbo has to go. Building something that kicks butt with no limitations on space is a blast and is what I buit on our black car. Building a GT42R kit that bolts into an EVO and fits is just amazing to me.......there just isn't enough room and making it work is cool. I'll leave that type of kit up to the other guys.

David Buschur
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Your info is always appreciated David, I have to say i am really pumped to get the 3065, it will be my first time running a GT turbo on one of my cars. I will take your word on the mani and stick with what comes with the kit.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Wow, so I can Expect similar whp and spoolup with that Cast manifold compaired to a Tubular? That is amazing.

I'm a little guy, i just want something easy and probably go with a Dynoflash as all has made AMAZING Numbers with a Dynoflash and a GT35R and Alky. The power he got simply did not warrent a AEM EMS and if I can save $1,000 on your 35R kit, that could go to the Tune and the Alky kit.

What intake can be used for a GT35R and a Stock MAF?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
Curt has stated 33psi was the sweet spot for the 35R. He went fastest MPH at that boost.
That is his quote from NABR. I guess he is lying then to decieve people. Whatever works for ya.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^

my thoughts exactly...if you can run a reflash with this turbo and alky and hit high 400's or break 500, i'd rip a hole in my pants (trying to get my wallet out of it,you sickos) .
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowEVO21
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my thoughts exactly...if you can run a reflash with this turbo and alky and hit high 400's or break 500, i'd rip a hole in my pants (trying to get my wallet out of it,you sickos) .
Haha, yeah Id run to the mailbox to fill out another credit card application.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Took my RS with the TD05H 20g-9 on it to Switzer's Dynojet this morning. Along with our black shop car that made 903 whp and 624 ft lbs, that's for another post though Anyway, my RS here on our MD AWD has made 410 whp and 450 ft lbs. With no changes to the car I drove it over to Switzer's and put it on the Dynojet. The car made 461 whp and 532 ft lbs of torque. This is with a peak boost of 28 psi on C16 fuel.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that this car will be just like the TD05H 20G's of the past and run 10.7's at 131 mph, as I predicted. On a 2wd Dynojet, back in the day, at 446 whp and 426 ft lbs of torque my Talon ran 10.7 at 131 mph.

I'm not usually far off, been doing this stuff for a little while.

Here is the Dynojet dyno sheet. Enjoy it.




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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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what caused the dip in the hp and tq?...a little rich?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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any updates on jarrod's car w/ the fp 3065?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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/\ that is a very ncie turbo...I am deciding on the fp3065 and the br35r....
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kmcconn9
what caused the dip in the hp and tq?...a little rich?
Just runs out of steam, what do you want froma a bolt on internal gate unit that runs 131MPH? Do you see how much torque it has off the line? This is probably the most drivable WHP ever EVER, seriously more low end grund and PEAK torque faster then a LS1 and then more topend. This setup is like having your cake, and eating it too.


Dave, I assume this is on your ported exhaust manifold and 2.4 Stroker kit?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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/\ no stage 3 head and block...
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