Call out to Buschur for a TD06 20G
Originally Posted by kmcconn9
/\ that is a very ncie turbo...I am deciding on the fp3065 and the br35r....
Have not dyno'd Jarrod's car yet, you guys will be the first to know.
The dip in the curve is after the initial boost hits and then comes down too much. I have more work to do on the AEM boost controller and the feedback. It hits 28 psi, pulls back to about 25 and then goes back up.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
The dip in the curve is after the initial boost hits and then comes down too much. I have more work to do on the AEM boost controller and the feedback. It hits 28 psi, pulls back to about 25 and then goes back up.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
I was thinking about the cast vs. tubular today at work. And was wondering about thermal velocity from the 2. Now the cast is thicker material which will hold heat longer than the tubular. Im trying to think back to my metallurgy days, but would need type of metal and thickness for each.
My vote goes to my sig below.
My vote goes to my sig below.
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Took my RS with the TD05H 20g-9 on it to Switzer's Dynojet this morning. Along with our black shop car that made 903 whp and 624 ft lbs, that's for another post though
Anyway, my RS here on our MD AWD has made 410 whp and 450 ft lbs. With no changes to the car I drove it over to Switzer's and put it on the Dynojet. The car made 461 whp and 532 ft lbs of torque. This is with a peak boost of 28 psi on C16 fuel.
I am going to go out on a limb and say that this car will be just like the TD05H 20G's of the past and run 10.7's at 131 mph, as I predicted. On a 2wd Dynojet, back in the day, at 446 whp and 426 ft lbs of torque my Talon ran 10.7 at 131 mph.
I'm not usually far off, been doing this stuff for a little while.
Here is the Dynojet dyno sheet. Enjoy it.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Anyway, my RS here on our MD AWD has made 410 whp and 450 ft lbs. With no changes to the car I drove it over to Switzer's and put it on the Dynojet. The car made 461 whp and 532 ft lbs of torque. This is with a peak boost of 28 psi on C16 fuel.I am going to go out on a limb and say that this car will be just like the TD05H 20G's of the past and run 10.7's at 131 mph, as I predicted. On a 2wd Dynojet, back in the day, at 446 whp and 426 ft lbs of torque my Talon ran 10.7 at 131 mph.
I'm not usually far off, been doing this stuff for a little while.
Here is the Dynojet dyno sheet. Enjoy it.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
We dyno'd Jarrod's car today.
His car is a basic BR Stage 4. HKS 272 cams, stock intake manifold, stock throttle body, stock head, stock springs/retainers, stock shortblock. Race FMIC. AEM EMS. BR GT turbo kit with the FP3065.
Dyno it on straight 94 octane. He is very worried about breaking the stock engine, more specifically breaking a rod bolt as we are seeing more and more of them doing this. With that said the tune was overly safe. AFR's over 4500 rpm were in the high 10.8's to 11.2:1. Knock threshold was set at 2 volts.
The car made 342 whp and 290 ft lbs of torque. I tuned it with the boost never going over 23 psi.
Boost hits very close to the same as the GT35R, with 20 psi coming in at 4400-4500 rpm. I used a manual controller most of the morning to get the car dialed in and then used the AEM to control it after that. The AEM controller dropped the spool up a good 400-500 rpm, this is typical to what I have been seeing using the boost control in the AEM EMS.
342 whp is a lot of power on straight pump gas on our dyno. Keep in mind that the 94 we use is about the best you are going to find anywhere.
The torque, while not that high, is extremely FLAT. I will get Jarrod to post a sheet later in the week.
This would be well over 400 whp on a Dynojet with a very-very conservative tune in the car.
I would rather make the results attainable by others than come up with some overly high number. I could have tuned it at more boost or leaned on it but Jarrod, like most people, would rather have the car stay together for a long time rather than put it on the edge.
I would really like to fill the car with race gas once he runs it out of fuel and dyno it on some C16. It should make some killer power like that.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
His car is a basic BR Stage 4. HKS 272 cams, stock intake manifold, stock throttle body, stock head, stock springs/retainers, stock shortblock. Race FMIC. AEM EMS. BR GT turbo kit with the FP3065.
Dyno it on straight 94 octane. He is very worried about breaking the stock engine, more specifically breaking a rod bolt as we are seeing more and more of them doing this. With that said the tune was overly safe. AFR's over 4500 rpm were in the high 10.8's to 11.2:1. Knock threshold was set at 2 volts.
The car made 342 whp and 290 ft lbs of torque. I tuned it with the boost never going over 23 psi.
Boost hits very close to the same as the GT35R, with 20 psi coming in at 4400-4500 rpm. I used a manual controller most of the morning to get the car dialed in and then used the AEM to control it after that. The AEM controller dropped the spool up a good 400-500 rpm, this is typical to what I have been seeing using the boost control in the AEM EMS.
342 whp is a lot of power on straight pump gas on our dyno. Keep in mind that the 94 we use is about the best you are going to find anywhere.
The torque, while not that high, is extremely FLAT. I will get Jarrod to post a sheet later in the week.
This would be well over 400 whp on a Dynojet with a very-very conservative tune in the car.
I would rather make the results attainable by others than come up with some overly high number. I could have tuned it at more boost or leaned on it but Jarrod, like most people, would rather have the car stay together for a long time rather than put it on the edge.
I would really like to fill the car with race gas once he runs it out of fuel and dyno it on some C16. It should make some killer power like that.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
BTW, we had dyno'd Jarrod's car before. Stage 4, same 720 cc injectors, Power FC, around 20 psi of boost, no over, with the EVO8 20G, it made 297 whp and about 295 ft lbs if I remember correctly. Changes now are the AEM EMS, Race FMIC and the BR3065 turbo kit.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
hmm would you say the gt35r is just a better option in this case then? seems if the boost doesn't come on faster then what's the point? unless it is 500 rpm faster than the 35r, i'm not possitive how you meant that sentence.
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
We dyno'd Jarrod's car today.
His car is a basic BR Stage 4. HKS 272 cams, stock intake manifold, stock throttle body, stock head, stock springs/retainers, stock shortblock. Race FMIC. AEM EMS. BR GT turbo kit with the FP3065.
Dyno it on straight 94 octane. He is very worried about breaking the stock engine, more specifically breaking a rod bolt as we are seeing more and more of them doing this. With that said the tune was overly safe. AFR's over 4500 rpm were in the high 10.8's to 11.2:1. Knock threshold was set at 2 volts.
The car made 342 whp and 290 ft lbs of torque. I tuned it with the boost never going over 23 psi.
Boost hits very close to the same as the GT35R, with 20 psi coming in at 4400-4500 rpm. I used a manual controller most of the morning to get the car dialed in and then used the AEM to control it after that. The AEM controller dropped the spool up a good 400-500 rpm, this is typical to what I have been seeing using the boost control in the AEM EMS.
342 whp is a lot of power on straight pump gas on our dyno. Keep in mind that the 94 we use is about the best you are going to find anywhere.
The torque, while not that high, is extremely FLAT. I will get Jarrod to post a sheet later in the week.
This would be well over 400 whp on a Dynojet with a very-very conservative tune in the car.
I would rather make the results attainable by others than come up with some overly high number. I could have tuned it at more boost or leaned on it but Jarrod, like most people, would rather have the car stay together for a long time rather than put it on the edge.
I would really like to fill the car with race gas once he runs it out of fuel and dyno it on some C16. It should make some killer power like that.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
His car is a basic BR Stage 4. HKS 272 cams, stock intake manifold, stock throttle body, stock head, stock springs/retainers, stock shortblock. Race FMIC. AEM EMS. BR GT turbo kit with the FP3065.
Dyno it on straight 94 octane. He is very worried about breaking the stock engine, more specifically breaking a rod bolt as we are seeing more and more of them doing this. With that said the tune was overly safe. AFR's over 4500 rpm were in the high 10.8's to 11.2:1. Knock threshold was set at 2 volts.
The car made 342 whp and 290 ft lbs of torque. I tuned it with the boost never going over 23 psi.
Boost hits very close to the same as the GT35R, with 20 psi coming in at 4400-4500 rpm. I used a manual controller most of the morning to get the car dialed in and then used the AEM to control it after that. The AEM controller dropped the spool up a good 400-500 rpm, this is typical to what I have been seeing using the boost control in the AEM EMS.
342 whp is a lot of power on straight pump gas on our dyno. Keep in mind that the 94 we use is about the best you are going to find anywhere.
The torque, while not that high, is extremely FLAT. I will get Jarrod to post a sheet later in the week.
This would be well over 400 whp on a Dynojet with a very-very conservative tune in the car.
I would rather make the results attainable by others than come up with some overly high number. I could have tuned it at more boost or leaned on it but Jarrod, like most people, would rather have the car stay together for a long time rather than put it on the edge.
I would really like to fill the car with race gas once he runs it out of fuel and dyno it on some C16. It should make some killer power like that.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
BTW, I have sent you a email on the FP3065. Need your advise
.Cheers,
Gerald.
I'm a little confused about how Jarrod wants a super conservative pump gas tune because of a fear of rod bolt issues (presumably, the risk of the bolts stretching and then spinning a bearing), but he's okay turning up the boost and doing a race gas tune. Wouldn't the race gas tune raise a lot more issues for the bottom end than a less conservative pump gas tune? Obviously, the risk of detonation is much less with C16, but if the concern is the rod bolts stretching rather than the pistons cracking due to detonation, then I would think that a high boost C16 tune is the last thing he'd want to do. Or is he just concerned about the rods from a detonation standpoint?
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I would really like to fill the car with race gas once he runs it out of fuel and dyno it on some C16. It should make some killer power like that.
i really want to see this setup run alky/pump....i basically have a stage 4 setup and if this turbo makes great power with faster spoolup than the 35r once youcrank up the boost, i'm sold.
Last edited by yellowEVO21; Mar 12, 2006 at 11:49 AM.
Can you overlay a gt35 with this new 3065 set up to compare ... also a gt3076 would be nice as well. I think this is what people, at least myself, are on the ropes about.
Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
I'm a little confused about how Jarrod wants a super conservative pump gas tune because of a fear of rod bolt issues (presumably, the risk of the bolts stretching and then spinning a bearing), but he's okay turning up the boost and doing a race gas tune. Wouldn't the race gas tune raise a lot more issues for the bottom end than a less conservative pump gas tune? Obviously, the risk of detonation is much less with C16, but if the concern is the rod bolts stretching rather than the pistons cracking due to detonation, then I would think that a high boost C16 tune is the last thing he'd want to do. Or is he just concerned about the rods from a detonation standpoint?
EVOlutionary