Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

boost ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 06:40 PM
  #1  
gixxer man's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: PA
boost ?

i have a 05 evo tbe helix high flow cat my boost spikes at 25 and goes to about 17 in the top of third is this normal my fist turbo car im a super charger guy thanks
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 06:53 PM
  #2  
eve-slow's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (68)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,051
Likes: 1
From: St. Charles, IL
What gas are you running? 25 seems a little high on pump (assuming you're not using alky). Even if you were, that is quit the taper.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 07:38 PM
  #3  
gixxer man's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: PA
i use 94 im i have a defi gauge bf
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 07:44 PM
  #4  
ibanez_926's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,121
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
well, ur boost gauge might be off, but my going by the fact it tapers to 17 in third it is probably close. Putting an exhaust on will give u a higher spike. Mine on an 03 which is lower stock peak boost then the 05 spiked to 22 psi before i got a tune. I would advise u get a tune soon. A 25 psi spike on 94 octane isnt too safe but wont hurt anything (im no tuner) but if you get a bad take of gas you might have some problems
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 07:55 PM
  #5  
fromWRXtoEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,087
Likes: 5
From: Tucson
Originally Posted by gixxer man
i have a 05 evo tbe helix high flow cat my boost spikes at 25 and goes to about 17 in the top of third is this normal my fist turbo car im a super charger guy thanks
LOL and I thought my gramar was bad...(I am just kidding). Before I can asnwer your question, could you tell me what do you mean with the last sentence I marked with dark ink?

My question to you is: Are you using a MBC(Manual boost controller). Another quick question, is your Defi BF gauge the electronic model which is controlled by the Defi Controller?

Please let me know, I want to answer your question more accurately and perhaps narrow your issue, believe me on that one I owned 12 Turbo cars and I have an idea of what your problem is but I need that additional info.

Carlos
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:43 PM
  #6  
gixxer man's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: PA
first off cut the B/S ha ha my mustang is super charged low 11's all bf's gauges need the controller to work this is why many people dont post because of people like you answer the ? this is not class
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:50 PM
  #7  
Dero's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 173
Likes: 0
From: Westchester County, NY
The spike is a little higher than most would like to see. If you get a MBC (pretty cheap and effective) you will see a smaller spike and a little less taper at high RPM.

Look at the Forge and Hallman Boost Controllers.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:51 PM
  #8  
wizzo 8's Avatar
Evolved Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,836
Likes: 14
From: Chicago suburbs
Mine spikes to about 23psi and drops to 18psi. I have a boost controller coming to try to prevent this taper.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:52 PM
  #9  
fromWRXtoEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,087
Likes: 5
From: Tucson
Ok Gixxer, the reason why I was asking you about the BF gauge series is because you can record and view your boost runs, basicly you can pin point when the drop of pressure occurs which will give you a cloud if you have a leak or if something is not properly connected.

The Evo comes with a copper ball bledder boost line on the compressor side , right after it exits the nipple. Without this bleeder you boost mostlikely will fluctuate until the engine revs up.

The theory behind this is that you build initiallly boost and the turbo has a tendency to naturally spin freely faster and faster.

A good MBC should be able to fix the problem by minimizing the spike and also by allowing you to set the boost to a intermidiate steady bost level(somewhere between 17 and 25psi)

Carlos
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:53 PM
  #10  
gixxer man's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: PA
Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
LOL and I thought my gramar was bad...(I am just kidding). Before I can asnwer your question, could you tell me what do you mean with the last sentence I marked with dark ink?

My question to you is: Are you using a MBC(Manual boost controller). Another quick question, is your Defi BF gauge the electronic model which is controlled by the Defi Controller?

Please let me know, I want to answer your question more accurately and perhaps narrow your issue, believe me on that one I owned 12 Turbo cars and I have an idea of what your problem is but I need that additional info.

Carlos
grammar
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:55 PM
  #11  
fromWRXtoEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,087
Likes: 5
From: Tucson
Gixxerman,

Your solution should be a ceramic ball boost controller.

Carlos
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:56 PM
  #12  
Evoryder's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (55)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 7,383
Likes: 10
From: ☼ Florida ☼
gixxer is on that stuff
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:57 PM
  #13  
fromWRXtoEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,087
Likes: 5
From: Tucson
Originally Posted by gixxer man
grammar
lol, that is me... that is the fun part. That why I was joking. You should hear me in person.


Carlos
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:57 PM
  #14  
gixxer man's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: PA
thanks for all the help guys
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 09:00 PM
  #15  
fromWRXtoEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,087
Likes: 5
From: Tucson
No probelm Gixxer. By the way, try to solve the issue ASAP, the cold temperatures in the early morning and at night could significantly agravate the situation a whole lot more. You might get an aditional two more PSI of peak boost which could make your car run extremely lean.

Good luck and let us know the resolution.


Carlos
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jjacks55
General Engine Management / Tuning Forum
3
Feb 25, 2014 04:59 AM
boostn6262
General Engine Management / Tuning Forum
4
May 29, 2012 10:08 AM
yancy21usa
09+ Lancer Ralliart General
14
Mar 28, 2011 01:50 PM
BlitZ168
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
2
Jun 28, 2009 10:29 AM
herbal77
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
21
Dec 21, 2004 05:16 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:08 PM.