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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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**update**

1) It isn't the Cam Timing - Everything is perfectly in time @ TDC
2) It isn't the Fuel Pump - Fuel pump is pumping away, although I could not verify that fuel was actually getting to the fuel rail.
3) The P0335 code is persistant...keeps coming back after clearing.
4) All the electrical plugs in the engine bay are verified connected, and no frayed, broken, or shorted wires were found

So, after 2+ hours of head scratching, I towed the car to Carmax where a Mitsu Master Certified Technician will begin diagnosing the car Monday Morning. You can believe that I will be there when this is happening.


Many thanks to everyone (Especially Andrew[Dyno4mance]) for the help/suggestions. I will update again after I know WTF happened to my baby. (She looked so sad on the flatbed... )
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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weird, plz keep us posted, gl
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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The car will not start if you really have a problem with the crank position sensor. The crank sensor is what tells the ignition when to fire. Without that signal, the ECU wont see engine rpm causing it to think its not turning over and therefore not produce a spark.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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do you have a way to use an afc or code reader to see if the ecu is reading any rpms. If you look for rpms while cranking and there are none you probably have a bad crank sensor
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Newb question: How does the crank position sensor read the crank's position. Meaning, is it attached to the timing belt at all or is it like the cam pos sensor?


I mean it would be a hell of a coincidence if my crank sensor went bad 3 weeks after a cam install. My thought is that maybe the wires were pulled out of the plug since you have to pull that plug back to change the cams...but after very close inspection, the plug and wires look fine.

Im going to let the shop fix it because I am just not educated enough to do it properly.

Moral of the story: I should have let Dyno4mance do the cam install.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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This may be a long shot, but those symptoms are similar to what happened to me when the timing belt jumped teeth in my '03 EVO. It also ran OK for several hundred miles (maybe a couple of thousand miles) after cams and cam gears installation, and then it suddenly stopped runing in the body shop when they were moving it around.... Andrew diagnosed it right away after I had the car towed to his shop and he corrected the problem quickly by replacing the tensioner which according to the knowledgeable, must be done every time it's messed with.....
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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by replacing the tensioner which according to the knowledgeable, must be done every time it's messed with.....
Do you mean you have to replace the tensoner after messing with bad timing or after actually using it?
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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This happened to me, ended up being a 10amp engine fuse. Frustratring, but easily fixed, no idea why it blew, and it was right after I installed my Vishnu Stage 1. Good luck with it.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Do you mean you have to replace the tensoner after messing with bad timing or after actually using it?
According to Dave Bushchur, the tensioner is a one time use item. Other tuners say that if the tensioner is not handled very precisely and using only the proper tools, it's sure to get damaged and fail causing the timing belt to jump teeth.... Of course, this might not be the case at all in this case, but it can be the reason a car wont start....
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by silverEVO8
According to Dave Bushchur, the tensioner is a one time use item. Other tuners say that if the tensioner is not handled very precisely and using only the proper tools, it's sure to get damaged and fail causing the timing belt to jump teeth.... Of course, this might not be the case at all in this case, but it can be the reason a car wont start....
Interesting, evolusion has tensioned twice, hense two different cam installs.

Got me worried now, I'm going to go check the tension - furthermore read the service manual.

I think the one time use idea developed from ******* doing maintenence on their cars and not properly using it in the first place.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Timing belt has not jumped teeth. It is all in time @ TDC like it should be. Also, all the fuses in the engine bay and under the dash are good.

You guys didt think I would have started a thread for something easy did ya?

When we did the cam install, we used the timing belt tension tool and followed the EvoMoto directions to the letter...only difference is that we bled the lifters.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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ps... thanks for all the replies. Carmax will be diagnosing the car tomorrow morning and Ill be there when they do it. Ill let you guys know what happened as soon as I know.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Well, Carmax is telling me that the Crank Position Sensor is bad. It is only returning like 1.7volts.


It seems like too much of a coincidence that the sensor "failed" within a month of a cam install... I sure hope that after they replace the sensor that it doesn't go bad again shortly thereafter.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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The sensor is positioned down low, durring the cam install the connector to it was diconnected. I cant see how a cam install can cause it's failure unless they dict up the connector and bent some pins and roasted it, if so check the fuses.

Sensors die for no reason time to time

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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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