Lots of people believe that the 50Trim is perfectly matched for the Evo and spools quite nicely. Turbo Trixx is a big advocate of the 50 Trim kits and they work quite well.

 

got a part number on this different wheel?

 

Yeah I mean if it really makes all that power on race gas I assume withj faster spool, I want to see some dyno runs, that would be amazing.

 

just drove an evo with a 50 trim on the pump gas map on the stock 2.0 and the car was just plain wicked.. look at the turbo trix forum under the vendor forums and look at the another monster thread if you need proof at just how badass that turbo really is

 

Are you saying you have driven the greddy 20g setup and comparred it to another car with a 50trim setup? Otherwise your statement don't mean much. You are impressed with a 50trim laying down 441hp/354tq at 23psi. But you are not impressed with a 20g laying down 493hp/409tq at 24psi.

 

I wonder what will happen when I get a big front mount. I think after that I'm pretty much full bolt ons....

 

Do you have a link to the car that put down 493/409 with a 20G?

 

Its in the new Turbo magazine of this month. It made 493hp and 409 ftl bs of torque. Not too shabby heh, I also agree that a properly setup 20G for the street is wicked FAST.

I have personally driven 2 50 trim kits and would pick a 20g any day of the week. I also have ALOT of datalogs of the 50 trimms on a 2.0 and my Evo9-20G 6 blade was making 20 psi WAY faster than them : ).

 

Figures, I just cancelled my Turbo subscription

20G definitely spools better than EVO920G, but no EVO9-20G is coming CLOSE to putting down 450whp on straight pump gas. From what ive seen, they cant even hit 400. Thats a world of difference and to be honest, I wouldnt even class them together.

I think people that want a 20G should realize its not a huge power gain. Putting on a 50 trim is. Of course, some people dont want or need the power of a 50 trim and they would rather have stock like spool and a little extra power. Thats personal preference.

My preference is raw power my next turbo will be a BB 50 trim or a GT35R. If my preference was that I wanted to keep lightning spool with a little more oomph - well then Id buy the 20G-9.

 

Who sells this NEW 20G and for what price? Thanks!

 

u cant campare JUN cars to normal cars.. lol... i mean their car with the greddy t-67/25g made like almost 700whp *i cant remember extactly number... someone on this board owns the car* ... which is like compelely unheard of for that turbo...

The second JUN touchs a car it's a new leauge... wait til a normal person gets greddy's 20g THEN u can talk all the crap you want on the t3t4 BB 50 trim.. until then .. the 50trim BB has more people with SOILD number from serveral different companys... soo as of right 50 FTW

 

ehh my bad it's the Greddy 25g ...td06

but still .. JUN cars.. are uncomparable to other cars... the're parts are the best.. they are the best.. but u pay BIG when u go jun

 

It says on the site evo vii jdm. Is that specifically for the evo vii or will it hook up to the 03-05 evos as well?

 

Jun did not make 700whp on the 25g. More like 565. I did all the research on the 25g before running one. Most max the 25g around 525-535whp so its not unbelievable for Jun to lay down 565. I agree what Jun has just done with the 20g is very unusual and people shouldn't expect to duplicate those numbers. I dont think a 50trim is a bad turbo or a poor choice. It has plenty good dyno numbers to back it up. But what it doesn't have is good track times to back it up. Look at the dsm times page. Click on all cars. There are no 20g's or 50trims in the top 100. From 100-200 there are ten 20g cars, and only five 50 trims. And its not because there are more 20g cars than 50 trim cars. In the dsm world the 50trim is cheaper than a 20g by quite a bit. So most opt for a 50trim over a 20g. The reason is because a 20g car is so much more responsive it makes it easier to make a good pass. Look at the evo only section and there are five fast 20g times. But only one 50 trim. Again 50 trim kits where available a couple years before a 20g ever made it on an evo. Where are all the fast 50 trim guys????

 

I think the worst thing to go on is those timeslip databases and even worse, comparing the 1g/2g DSMs with 50 trims. Most people dont even bother to post times on there first off.

Secondly, you say there are five fast 20g times to one 50trim in the EVO section. Well, contrary to DSMs, the 50 trims are more expensive since it includes buying a KIT which can range from 3-5k. Compared to the bolt on 20Gs sold which cost 1100-1500, Id say that would account for why there not as many right off the bat. Maybe 50 trim guys dont track the car as often? So what? The powerband and numbers are there. You think a guy with 420whp EVO 50trim BB is going to slow? I dont.

The 1g DSMs have a low 7:8:1 CR and most guys who buy 50 trims buy NON ball bearing ones. The lag on them is pretty nasty, I would know, 2 of my close friends have them on their DSMs. Their times arent going to be spectacular not only because of that, but also because most DSMs are in mediocre condition. They are old beat up cars with big turbos on them, usually without the correct supporting mods. An EVO which is all around better (higher CR, better head, TB, etc) plus a 50 trim in ball-bearing is going to kick *** period.