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Old May 27, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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polyurethane vs metal shifter bushing

just wonder what are the benefit from the two? i'm in the market for one, inside the car and under the hood) and don't know which to decide. i'm thinking the metal ones are going to make shifting much stiffer because there's less give. i'm also wondering, from the other thread, as to why some of the metal ones are seizing up (the under the hood ones...maybe because the change in temperature which is causing the metal to exand?) and making the shifter harder to shift? anyone else using the metal ones having the same problems? what brands were there (so maybe i can avoid the same problems). and info would be helpful.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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I just did the full kartboy KIT , No metal in these bushings , this is how the shifter should of felt when we got the car NEW! Vert pleased with the kartboy kit ,
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Old May 28, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cleanevo
I just did the full kartboy KIT , No metal in these bushings , this is how the shifter should of felt when we got the car NEW! Vert pleased with the kartboy kit ,
where did you get it and what did you get. link thanks.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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I prefer the metal bushings. I don't believe in having any "give" or compression in these bushings. By having softer bushings, you can allow some (VERY slight, almost not even noticeable) delay in the engagement of a given gear as the bushing flex when force is exerted on them.

Having solid bushings means no play/flex, so the gear engages exactly when it is supposed to.

Don't think of shifter bushings in the same context as motor mount bushings. Solid motor mount bushings will rattle your teeth out, but they completely eliminate ALL motor movement. This is where flexible bushings are need to maintain a level of comfort.

Solid shifter bushings have no negatives. Just even more precise gear engagement.

(BTW, I have Bushur underhood bushings and Lancershop.com brass shifter base bushings.)
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Old May 28, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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I got the full kartboy kit , Shifter and the base bushings and tranny bushings.all for like $155-160 www.kartboy.com
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Old May 28, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cleanevo
I got the full kartboy kit , Shifter and the base bushings and tranny bushings.all for like $155-160 www.kartboy.com
is the knob waited or light. was there any fitment problems.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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I installed the Authorty 5 pc. Short Shifter Combo (Used to be available from lancershop.com) yesterday.

http://boneheadperformance.com/evo/evo_clutchtrans.htm is where i got mine from.

I greased up EVERTYTHING when installing. Even the brass bushings under the hood. All I can say is wow. Throws are shorter and very direct. I love the way it feels so much better than before. Takes a little more effort with throws but I think it is suppose to.

Best damn 100 bucks I have ever spent on my evo....next is gonna be some stiffer motor mounts.

Also, the counterweight shift knob is pretty kool that comes with it. Nice and shiney

Just my .02
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Old May 28, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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nice.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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so i decided to get the 5 piece authority short shifter from AMS tuning. 109 is not bad considering B&M, Perrin, etc... were 130+ for just the short shifter alone. i also heard the Authority shifter isn't bad at all and the best bang for the bucks deal. i just hope the bushings are good http://www.amstuning.com/shop/cart.p...ct_detail&p=87.

i got a stainless steel clutch line and took the restrictor off so i hope all of these things will make shifting short and crisp.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@Forge
I prefer the metal bushings. I don't believe in having any "give" or compression in these bushings. . . . Solid shifter bushings have no negatives. Just even more precise gear engagement.
I agree completely. There is no substitute for the feel metal bushings give to the shifter. It should have come that way from the factory.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
is the kart boy knob waited or light. was there any fitment problems.
anyone?????
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Would metal bushings increase synchro wear? Does anybody know?

Last edited by alloyic_rs; Jul 15, 2006 at 09:24 PM.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 01:55 AM
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i have the buschur racing aluminum bushings in combination with a B&M short shifter.

i highly recomend them. it really improves shifter feel and i never have any problems getting into second gear now.

they've been in for several months now, been to the drag strip a couple times with them and have no problems with them seizing or making the shifts hard when the engine heats up.
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