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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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not only does the stroker spool fast.. it make SOO MUCH more midrange power it's retarded
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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freeway running is all about the turbo... not the displacement. as long as you have a turbo that don't run outta breath in the high rpms it doesnt matter if you are stroked or not.

if you have a stroker and use the stock turbo you'll never do freeway running.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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I remember reading somewhere that in buschurs drag car they are shifting at about 11k coming out of 1st Same built 2.0 that you can buy.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by trinydex
freeway running is all about the turbo... not the displacement. as long as you have a turbo that don't run outta breath in the high rpms it doesnt matter if you are stroked or not.
Well thats pretty obvious and that is not what is being debated. I agree no matter the displacement, with a GT35R up top the car is going to haul. However, I suggested the 2.3L since he said highway for a certain reason and thats the powerband, especially initially. If youre going to be taking off at 5000rpm, the stroker will annihilate a similar setup 2.0 car (same boost, turbo, etc).

Look at the graph from TopSpeed of the 2.0 vs 2.3. The stroker was making over 170ft/lbs more torque at 5000rpm!! Thats significant enough for me.

If he asked about dragging the car, Id say 2.0 because after you launch, your sitting at those high RPMs until you go through the traps. Not so the case for roll-on racing!
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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high revs kill engines, it's pretty pointless to go@10K. anyways power drops quickly after 7000rpms
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Well thats pretty obvious and that is not what is being debated. I agree no matter the displacement, with a GT35R up top the car is going to haul. However, I suggested the 2.3L since he said highway for a certain reason and thats the powerband, especially initially. If youre going to be taking off at 5000rpm, the stroker will annihilate a similar setup 2.0 car (same boost, turbo, etc).

Look at the graph from TopSpeed of the 2.0 vs 2.3. The stroker was making over 170ft/lbs more torque at 5000rpm!! Thats significant enough for me.

If he asked about dragging the car, Id say 2.0 because after you launch, your sitting at those high RPMs until you go through the traps. Not so the case for roll-on racing!
oh i was talkin' to op cuz his thread title is basically asking the wrong question.

should be... which turbo should i use for freeway running on a 2.0 or same on a 2.3.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by trinydex
oh i was talkin' to op cuz his thread title is basically asking the wrong question.

should be... which turbo should i use for freeway running on a 2.0 or same on a 2.3.
True dat.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by evo542
high revs kill engines, it's pretty pointless to go@10K. anyways power drops quickly after 7000rpms
hahah no dude.. we arent comparing stock turbos... the dedate is on gt35r's which doesnt just fall after 7k at all .. it starts fallin at probaly 8-8.5 depending on the housing
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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ok I spoke to Buschur and told him I want my car to go from 60-150mph in the quickest time and he told me to stick to the 2.0
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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He is correct.

If you were to ask how to get from 60-125mph, the answer would be different. It's the earlier shift into 5th that limits the high speed performance of the 2.3 with the factory gearing.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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the 35r is a nice turbo but i say the power drops at around 8
??????????????? these turbo's dont drop off what are you talking about?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
He is correct.

If you were to ask how to get from 60-125mph, the answer would be different. It's the earlier shift into 5th that limits the high speed performance of the 2.3 with the factory gearing.
What about if you had a 4.11 final drive in the 2.3 ? Also what if that figure was 60-130... stroker?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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With the factory gearing, 121 mph equals 7500 rpm, which I feel is a safe maximum rpm limit for a short rod, long stroke 2.3L 4G63.

If the final drive is changed from the stock EVO 8 4.53:1 to 4.11:1, that 7500 rpm figure equates to 133 mph. With a large turbo and enough power, a 4.11:1 final drive makes a 2.3L 4G63 a more attractive option.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
With the factory gearing, 121 mph equals 7500 rpm, which I feel is a safe maximum rpm limit for a short rod, long stroke 2.3L 4G63.

If the final drive is changed from the stock EVO 8 4.53:1 to 4.11:1, that 7500 rpm figure equates to 133 mph. With a large turbo and enough power, a 4.11:1 final drive makes a 2.3L 4G63 a more attractive option.

How much is enough power?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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I spin to 8500 no problem on the stock engine. So if you are only planning 8k on a built motor your crazy. At least 9k on a built motor. BTW the 35R keeps building more power for me all the way to 8500.
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