What is better big turbo or smaller turbo and stroke
i just got my 280's with 3076 in and i love it. i kept of with a viper yesterday and i wasnt even on race gas. i also killed a cbr600 on the freeway also on 92. so on race gas it will be a beast. i would recomand a alky kit also that is my next thing.
Guys, the key word is reliable here. None of those setups will be reliable and long lasting. They are awesome setups dont get me wrong but I think its overboard for what he is asking. He wants a quick reliable setup at least thats what I read from the op.
Originally Posted by Stew
You can have any 2 of these 3, but never all 3.
- Fast
- Reliable
- Cheap
Think about it.
- Fast
- Reliable
- Cheap
Think about it.
However, he could have a fast and reliable car IMHO with a built stroker block, and all the supporting bolt ons for just around the 7grand range. Of course keep the stock fmic and turbo. However, the bolt ons he decides to go with is his choice ultimately.
If he didnt say reliable I would have never mentioned the stroker because he could put all the supporting mods on and boost it all the way up and the block would be left to handle all that increase in power and may not be reliable key words here are "may not."
So I guess it is going to be all opinion here but I guess thats all we have to go by. just my .02
A stroker motor with a 35r or less is pretty much the ultimate way to go as far as a street machine. With my current setup i make 22 psi by around 4000-4200 rpms with more tuning to go and drivabilty is awesome. Before i installed my 3065 i had a 20g which was the fastest spooling turbo i've seen yet with a stroker, it almost spooled to fast but the power was lacking up top. 4500-5000 will not do the job for a built and installed motor. You can have Fast and Reliabilty but its not ever going to be cheap!
FYI turbo lag is over rated...
FYI turbo lag is over rated...
Originally Posted by Stew
Unless you Autocross the car 

Scorke
Its simple... I am buying used... possibly new... either way I will have the vo buy july.... my father passed away just a few weeks ago and it has limited my ability to really goout and get one right away. I am trying to keep my mind off of it by planning my possibilbe mod options... dont rip on me... respect that I am hungry for information. If you want me to feel like crud then just kick me off the forums for not having an evo yet. Sorry I havent gotten the sale done yet, and I am sorry that non evo owners are not allowed to ask questions ... thanks alot to thos ehwo have made me feel really wlecome... the rest of u need to back off. wouldnt be asking the questions if I wasnt serious about evos... so chose to help me out or not... but hold back the well he doesnt have an evo comments to yourself..
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Originally Posted by saleen281
Its simple... I am buying used... possibly new... either way I will have the vo buy july.... my father passed away just a few weeks ago and it has limited my ability to really goout and get one right away. I am trying to keep my mind off of it by planning my possibilbe mod options... dont rip on me... respect that I am hungry for information. If you want me to feel like crud then just kick me off the forums for not having an evo yet. Sorry I havent gotten the sale done yet, and I am sorry that non evo owners are not allowed to ask questions ... thanks alot to thos ehwo have made me feel really wlecome... the rest of u need to back off. wouldnt be asking the questions if I wasnt serious about evos... so chose to help me out or not... but hold back the well he doesnt have an evo comments to yourself..
ENJOY....
Originally Posted by saleen281
Its simple... I am buying used... possibly new.... dont rip on me... respect that I am hungry for information...
What seems simple to you isn't simple to us if we do not have enough information to give you intelligent advice.
It boils down to this:
$4500-5000 may or may not be enough to do what you want, depending upon your starting point.
If you are starting with an EVO that already has substantial upgrades, $4500-5000 becomes more realistic.
IF however you are starting with a stock or relatively stock EVO, $4500-5000 with $600-800 of that invested in a turbo does not get you into stroker territory (not where you'd want to be anyway). $4500-5000 is however enough to make a very strong street performer with the stock 2.0L engine, assuming the upgrades are chosen wisely.
Originally Posted by feldguy
Ted is correct.
Even so, using a 2.3 stroker with a "smaller" turbo isn't exactly the easiest way to achieve high HP goals.
Some road racing guys use the GT30 and a stroker to get a monster torque machine that spools quickly, however, in a lot of cases they run out of breath up top.
So, the best turbo kit for driving and overall stability would be a 20g or a 50trim on a 2.0
The Evo can handle, stock, quite a bit of power as long as care is taken with the tune.
On a 5000 dollar budget, basically you're looking at staged packages 1-4 from AMS, Buschur or the like, then have to cough up more money for the turbo kit and associated installs.
8-10 grand is what it takes to do it properly...so for the most part you have to lower your expectations or come up with a higher budget in the long run.
best of luck.
Even so, using a 2.3 stroker with a "smaller" turbo isn't exactly the easiest way to achieve high HP goals.
Some road racing guys use the GT30 and a stroker to get a monster torque machine that spools quickly, however, in a lot of cases they run out of breath up top.
So, the best turbo kit for driving and overall stability would be a 20g or a 50trim on a 2.0
The Evo can handle, stock, quite a bit of power as long as care is taken with the tune.
On a 5000 dollar budget, basically you're looking at staged packages 1-4 from AMS, Buschur or the like, then have to cough up more money for the turbo kit and associated installs.
8-10 grand is what it takes to do it properly...so for the most part you have to lower your expectations or come up with a higher budget in the long run.
best of luck.
Originally Posted by scorke
The best turbo if your going to autocross the car varies by class, if its A Stock run a TME or a 20g variant, if its a mod class I would go with a 30R or a gt28 of sorts, new turboed cars can autocross better than people think, in all seriousness how much time do you spend below 4k in an autocross?
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