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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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I haven't had any problems yet at the dealership getting my free maintenance with the buschur stage 1 package on my IX thus far. Noone mentioned anything to me about my mods while I was there but I'm not relying on anything being covered if something happens.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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i think a short shifter and some aluminum shifter bushings would make a great mod for the warranty conscious.

aside from a stiffer rear sway bar that is the only thing i have done to my evo performance wise, for the moment

but i must say i am very pleased with it. i have no more fear of missing second, and the shifts are much tighter and solid.

so far the dealer hasn't said anything about it either. most likely because they haven't noticed. also, install took me about 45 minutes total for both, and that included a good deal of beer drinking and screwing around. it's not going to be an amazing night and day performance difference like a reflash or a new exhaust, but it does make your shifts feel alot nicer. i'll have to get back to you on wether it has helped my 1/4 mile though
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Flashes can only be detected on 05-06s, but it's pretty difficult
There is a simple way to tell if the ecu has been altered, just push in the clutch, hit the launch limiter and see if it has been raised If you are really concerned about voiding warranty, you might want to consider asking Al not to include the launch limiter increase on your flash. Just something to think about if you want to play it on the safe side.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Yes, there's a BIG difference in power between a cat delete and HFC. The test pipe will make at least 10 more whp.

Unfortunately, the rear side of the Buschur test pipe and HFC are not flanged - they are slip fit - so you can't just switch the stock cat in and out. However, the downpipe side is flanged, so to go back to "stock," you'd just need to drop the downpipe-back and put back on the stock cat and stock cat-back. Still not a big deal...
Do you think the extra hp comes from the increased flow or the fact that typically you see slightly more boost with a freer flowing exhaust.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rviscosi
Do you think the extra hp comes from the increased flow or the fact that typically you see slightly more boost with a freer flowing exhaust.
Free flow!
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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When we dyno'd, Dave said 10-15whp would be gained from the hi-flo cat to a test pipe.

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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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stay stock, if you are going light/easy or moderate. it's kinda enough to face 95% of the cars on the roads anyway.
if u want to mod, go fast and be aggressive, don't worry about the warranty.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nauticabri
I was wondering similar things too about the MBC and a dynoflash mail-in reflash. Whether the dealership would know or care, and how much more of a difference I would notice from where I'm at right now... The reflash is only 200 bucks, MBC is like 85... So not too expensive for either. Just wish I knew how much of a difference it would give me from where I stand. Even just going with the flash and no MBC (so you dont have to take it on and off to go in for warranty work if they'd mind it)
Nauticabri, I'm pretty sure I've said something like this to you before, but really...how could you not know how crazy the gains are with a flash/mbc when there's IXs all over this site with that stuff putting down crazy numbers on the dyno and crazy times at the track? In fact, you will gain MORE from a mail-in flash + mbc than you did from your current mods. There's really no reason to add any of that stuff without a flash on a IX - they get sickening amounts of power from tuning.

Basically, <$300 for ~40whp/40wtq instead of the $700-800 you spent for 15-20whp. What's great is you'll get the full power out of the exhaust when you get flashed and should end up around 330-340whp on 93oct with 22-23psi daily driven...
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Nauticabri, I'm pretty sure I've said something like this to you before, but really...how could you not know how crazy the gains are with a flash/mbc when there's IXs all over this site with that stuff putting down crazy numbers on the dyno and crazy times at the track? In fact, you will gain MORE from a mail-in flash + mbc than you did from your current mods. There's really no reason to add any of that stuff without a flash on a IX - they get sickening amounts of power from tuning.

Basically, <$300 for ~40whp/40wtq instead of the $700-800 you spent for 15-20whp. What's great is you'll get the full power out of the exhaust when you get flashed and should end up around 330-340whp on 93oct with 22-23psi daily driven...
I definitely get your points and appreciate your advise. I think a mail-in-flash will definitely be my next mod, if ther eis a next mod. I do know what people are saying and such from the flashes, and the gains they rave about. I'm just tryin to equate that into how significant of a difference I'm going to notice driving the car on an everyday basis.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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You're wondering how much of a difference 30-40whp would make? Well, I don't know how your exhaust felt, but this would be a bigger HP with a LOT more torque, and it won't result in being really loud and illegal - two unfortunate side effects of exhaust. In fact, had you done no mods whatsoever and just got a flash, you'd have gained more and still remained 100% stock-appearing and stock-sounding. For $199 to get 30whp, I can't imagine hesitating...there's just no better way to spend your money.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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Would it be dumb to just do the mail-in-flash with no MBC?
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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No, it would be smart. An MBC is not 100% necessary - it's just a good tool to give you full boost control and a bit less taper. Hell, it's only $85, though - you spent about that much on a panel filter.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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good point... 330-340whp runnin low 12's for just another 200 bucks for the mail-in-flash does sound quite appeasing. Might have to do that on monday when I get out of work and mail it away tuesday morning, thursday/friday I should have it back and be good to go. I know the fuel pump on the IX is upgraded over the VIII where they had issues with them overheating sometimes. So is it really necessary for me to upgrade it with the flash?

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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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No, it's not necessary.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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I didnt think so, thanks a lot for the help. I think next week Im gonna do this.
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