Blue Evo 8

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I plan on installing my 50 Trim turbo kit towards the end of July along with my 1000 cc injectors and an M15 alky injection nozzle.


My question is will the 1000 cc injectors and the M15 alky nozzle be overkill??

I mean when running alky you can back off on the fuel maps a bit, therefore lowering IDC, since we're running more meth....

my other question is should I switch over to a 2.5 gallon meth bottle and get rid of my 1 gallon bottle now?

sspeed

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Why 1000cc injectors..? Seems like a bit of overkill for a 50 trim. Is there more to the story?

gaulrich2003

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I had a size 15 injector on my car and took it off a day later. You will go through meth very quickly. The other problem with that size of nozzle obviously you will be substituting more meth/alcohol for gas. I have heard that too much meth/alcohol is not good. If you want to ask people who have years of experience, ask the guys on the turbo buick forum. I hope this helps!!!

SlowCar

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M15 = 15gallon per hour = 0.25gal per min = ~946cc per min

1 gallon = 1/0.25 = 4 mins worth of continuous spray

2.5 gallon = 2.5/0.25 = 10 mins of non-stop spray

get a bigger bottle AND make sure u got a real good fail safe

SlowCar

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the more meth, the better. the problem is when u run out of it or your injection system fails

DCSilvrEvo

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THis dude plans on flooding his engine. Running 4.0.1 air/fuel

SlowCar

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run it rich and safe. Bore wash the cylinders squeeky clean

Jim_Patterson

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id say use the m15 jet and like 780 or 880cc injectors.
The m15 will be fine and you shouldnt see any problems from using that "big" of a jet, you also wont use the meth very fast like everyone says.

I had the m15 on my dsm and a 5gal meth cell, it last 3-4 gas fill ups.

ExViTermini

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1000cc injectors for a 50 trim are overkill to begin with. Very good choice on them though as it allows you to upgrade later w/out having to buy more ****.


Just use the nozzle that came in the kit, I'm still using the original and it is running perfectly. I should have an HP61 to put on this week and I'll go get retuned on it in the next few weeks.


Obviously my stock block would not hold up if it were really cranked...so it will stay in the 500 whp range.

Ted B

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Dittos, the injectors are really too big. . . unless of course you have an AEM EMS, which requires unusually large injectors because it comes equipped with the wrong injector drivers.

The M15 alky nozzle is fine, but doesn't give much tolerance if an unexpected interruption occurs. Be sure you get a competent dyno tune to get it working properly.

Steve@NoLimitmotors

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using 1000cc injectors with the AEM EMS will be fine. They can be scaled down, It really doesnt matter if he uses 1600cc injectors with AEM. Obviously they are overkill and not needed but they CAN be used without a problem. The m15 jet may be a little much if used with pure methanol. I'd try a M10 jet first and see how that goes. If the car cant run 30 psi without detonating after tuned by a competent tuner, then maybe step up to an m15.

Ted B

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FWIW, the originator of the post did not mention anything about an AEM EMS. I tossed in that caveat about an AEM requiring unusually large injectors in advance, just in case. . .

The point is that with any other means of engine management (including factory ECU-based options) 1000cc injectors are absolutely unnecessary for this application, and are less desirable where ease of tuning and part throttle performance and economy are concerned. Even 780s are plenty enough to make far more power than this setup will ever generate.

Blue Evo 8

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I am running an AEM EMS, speed density

Ted B

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Then you'll probably need 1000s. Basically, an AEM requires 1000s to do the job normally fit for 750s.

Blue Evo 8

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and also Ted, with the 1000cc injectors, can I still make close to 500 AWHP with just the M7 nozzle provided all other supporting mods are there?