I see plenty of dsm owners in my area over the last few years running far more boost than 93 can handle. Small particles have no problem making there way through the crank bearings or oil pump. Those systems have tremendous driving power. The crank has a flywheel storing rediculous amounts of momentum. A .002 inch particle has no problem making its way past a main/rod bearings. The scratches it leaves behind will not affect the engine performance in any way. Bearings are very soft and have no problem burrying small particles in their surface. Sending a .002 particle through a turbo bearing that is spining 100,000 rpm is a whole different ball of wax. The bearing is very small and there is very little stored mass in a turbo. The bearings are also made of brass and don't give in any way. These particle can easily stir up trouble and send a turbo to its grave.

 

I think you are breaking his whole statement down to just an inline filter.. I think its meant to be more of a broad topic.. from everything down from a filter to tuning.. pretty much what he meant is evo owners tend to spend the money on professional installs and tuning compared to someone that bought a used dsm threw a big turbo on it and just turned the boost up.. of course you will have that with evo owners but since the ratio of evos to dsms out there you will have more unexperienced dsm owners giving false or poor information due to bad installs on products..

 

A single particle is not going to kill a turbo, nor will it kill a bearing. However, as I stated before, if you are producing enough particles to kill a turbo then you've probably killed/or about to kill a number of other parts that are in the oil path.

Particles don't usually bed themselves in the babbit material of the gasket, due to the oil pressures around the journal. What they tend to do is strip away bearing material and journals as they pass by. I've never seen once where any particle has buried itself in the journal without doing some damage first.

Also, have you guys considered that 99% of the time, the guys that use these turbos in the DSM world are switching from 8 year old T25's and 13 year old 14b's that were functioning. If those old stock turbos didn't fail after all those years of service what is different about this new turbo that would cause it to fail? If a turbo fails after after being placed on a DSM that previously had a stock turbo then you can just about garantee that the problem occured with the turbo and not due to anything else.

The problem is in the turbo, not your generalization of DSM owners.

 

You guys act like they are Ferraris or something. They are economy cars with a turbo.

It is crazy in my mind for me to pay someone else to mod my car for me and I flog it without knowing anything about my own car. What happens when it breaks? I know you complain on the internet about the company that did the installs incompentence and how bad EVO's are.

Turbo installs are almost as easy as installing spark plugs. Two oil lines, two water lines, 4 bolt in the manifold and 2 on the downpipe...what is there to install incorrectly?

 

I just e-mailed turbochargers.com and they said the TME turbo I ordered is a MHI turbo.

However, I don't know about the others.

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