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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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No more Heat Soaked intercooler !!

Well i ordered the AMS group buy intercooler today and am looking forward to getting it next week and posting some dyno resluts . My car has got the speed of geo metro in this heat its SLOW !! So i am hoping getting this intercooler upgrade will help with the 115 degree days we are having here in Vegas
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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You know how to fix that permanently? Move out of Hell!, oops, I mean the desert...
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOIX4me
Well i ordered the AMS group buy intercooler today and am looking forward to getting it next week and posting some dyno resluts . My car has got the speed of geo metro in this heat its SLOW !! So i am hoping getting this intercooler upgrade will help with the 115 degree days we are having here in Vegas
Im no expert< but from what I see here on the forums..The stock inter cooler is fine for youre mods!! unless you upgrade the turbo. You will experiance turbo lag and youre peek hp will move higher up in the rpm band!!

Id say tough it out, how fast do you possably want to go in 115 weather?

Spend the cash on some other mods!!

my 2 cent, since I live next door in AZ
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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It will heat soak just like the stocker - maybe just a little later. FMIC do not "make" power in any case, they simply try to reverse parasitic loss. if I were you i'd do water injection, exhaust coating, and upper ic pipe coating instead...
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Actually, the loss of power you're feeling is not from heatsoak. It's simply from the intake charge being so much warmer and thus making less power. However, with sustained boosting, especially in a racing environment, those 115* temps would cause you to make less power AND cause heatsoak. The good thing is that the AMS FMIC is very good, but it was not your solution to making less power in heat. That should have been addressed by cooling the intake charge with something like alky or water injection.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Actually, the loss of power you're feeling is not from heatsoak. It's simply from the intake charge being so much warmer and thus making less power. However, with sustained boosting, especially in a racing environment, those 115* temps would cause you to make less power AND cause heatsoak. The good thing is that the AMS FMIC is very good, but it was not your solution to making less power in heat. That should have been addressed by cooling the intake charge with something like alky or water injection.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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^^ exactly...an air-to-air intercooler is never going to cool the air below ambient...the intercooler will help with heat soak, but when ambient is hot as hell the air will always be hot as hell...
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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But it looks nice the fmic, that is...
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Also, high ambient temperatures mean less air density and therefore less oxygen per unit of air. This is why car enthusiasts all over the world rejoice when fall weather returns --it's a free and instant power boost.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Also, high ambient temperatures mean less air density and therefore less oxygen per unit of air. This is why car enthusiasts all over the world rejoice when fall weather returns --it's a free and instant power boost.
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how the hell are ya... Spray some liquid Nitrogen on your FMIC - it'll do the trick
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Well from what i have heard i can expect about 20 hp increase with my stock turbo ??
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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your def not gonna gain 20whp just putting it on but i'm sure it will help a little bit. Like everyone else said methanol injection would help the most.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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With an IC change and nothing else? Wouldn't a larger intercooler mean a pressure drop and potentially small -loss- in power?
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOIX4me
Well from what i have heard i can expect about 20 hp increase with my stock turbo ??
got dyno? specifically a run after heatsoak
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Im no expert< but from what I see here on the forums..The stock inter cooler is fine for youre mods!! unless you upgrade the turbo. You will experiance turbo lag and youre peek hp will move higher up in the rpm band!!

Id say tough it out, how fast do you possably want to go in 115 weather?

Spend the cash on some other mods!!

my 2 cent, since I live next door in AZ

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