My friends and I have had this conversation before. I still think that an Evo in the states with an automatic would sell. I wouldn't buy one, but people would. Look at all the chicks driving automatic GSXs and Subarus. It would make a fun city car.

 

AMS wants to charge over 20k!! That's insane!

Buscher keeps telling me they will get back to me but hasn't... hrm. Anyone else you guys think?

 

interesting. i'd get one with paddle shifters...but not pure auto.

 

For drag racing a BUILT 5 speed automatic trans is king over a 5 speed manual. Same ability to have small ratio differences between the gears to match up to an engine with a narrow power band (that was the downfall of the DSM auto... it was only a 4 speed) without the disadvantage of the drive train shock of a manual transmission AWD launch, along with the possibility of missed shifts.

For any OTHER form of racing you are clearly better off with the 5 speed or 6 speed manaul.... and the 6 speeds are having issues with 4th gear in high HP MR's.... just as predicted over a year ago by GEARS.

Keith

 

Looking at the gear ratios given in the GTA pdf file if you set it up for shifting at 8,000 RPM you would be finishing the 1/4 mile in 3rd gear for most people running in the 11's at the same speed as someone running a 5 speed would be crossing the traps in 4th gear.

For an 8000 RPM shift, you would top out 1st gear at 48 mph, and drop to 4350 RPM on the shift to 2nd gear. Second gear would top out at 88.4 mph and drop you down to 5550 RPM on the shift to 3rd, and 3rd gear would top out at 128.0 mph

Cruising on the highway at 80 mph you would be at 2575 RPM.

If you used the final drive from the 5 speed, first gear would top out at 35 mph, top out 2nd at 65 mph, top out 3rd at 94 mph, and top out 4th at 134 mph. Gear spacing would be identical of course.

Cruising on the highway at 80 mph you would be at 3500 RPM.

For comparison, with the stock 5 speed manual shifting at 8,000 RPM that data is:

Top out 1st gear at 46 mph droping to 5400 RPM on the shift to 2nd gear. 2nd gear tops out at 69 mph droping to 5800 RPM on the shift to 3rd. 3rd gear tops out at 95 mph, droping to 5850 RPM on the shift to 4th. And 4th gear tops out at 130 mph.

Cruising on the highway at 80 mph give you 3450 RPM in the 5 speed manual.

That big gap between 1st and 2nd in the auto looks bad untill you realize that the speed in gear data for the 5 speed auto is almost identical to the speed in gear data for the 5 speed MANAUL from the DSM's for those two gears.

I think that the 5 speed auto with the stock final drive from the 5 speed manual would be a kick @ss drag setup.

Keith

 

Good info. Off topic,did you know fastest Supra use auto(7.9)??

 

My JDM EVO is auto....!

 

Yeah, but you have to quantify that statement witht he fact that those Supras use Chevy Powerglide transmissions that have a bazillion years of drag racing development behind them from the domestics. They are allowed to use them in their class because some Landcruisers came with GM Powerglides in the 70's. Wether that is fair or not, the thing is Mitsubishi auto don't have that mch R&D into them and the fastest AWD Mitsus are still manuals.

 

Find one of those JDM engine importers and get a drivetrain out of an Evo GTA, but make sure you get the ECU, too.

 

Evo 9 wagon GT-A is also an automatic FYI .. uses the exact same engine as the Evo VII GT-A

To say the Auto is slower than the manual is probably the most ignorant post of all.. from what basis does that come from?? have you driven an AUTO EVO lately ?? there's a video floating around that shows a GT-A and a manual in a drag (yes GT-A is driven by a very pretty JDM chick ) .. and yes .. obviously the chick won ..

of course power wise an auto will NEVER match the manual pound for pound .. but it is always the consistency of the auto that makes it so sweet to drive .. never mind when you are stuck in a traffic jam and you have to work your twin plate while I just step on the brakes

Search for transmission codes W5A51 used on the GT-A, Turbo Airtrek SUV and the Galant VR4

Oh yes .. I know a GT-A that CONSISTENTLY does 0-60 in the 4s... call that a slow auto

 

i use to habe the part number for the GTA Tranny, shifter wiring harness and Tq converter, when i looked into it parts alone were in the 15k range not including the steering wheel controls or the new guage cluster.

If i was building a dedicated drag car and had $$$$ layong around i would do it.

 

i would definetly look at another car, if you want an auto tranny, maybe an auto wrx or the new VW gti. the evo is not meant to have a slush box.

 

Yeah, ummm for those of you that don't know yet, the X won't be a true Evo. Instead, it will suck.

 

i would drive one i heard there is alot less power loss through the drive train or at least thats what this guy with a wrx with an easy street auto trans told me just picture a 42R at constant boost that would be insane!

 

Ya,ya,i know TH400/350 and Glide is floating around for long time,