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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Question Stroker kit purchasing question...

As of the first of the year im going to prolly buy a stroker kit for my IX..

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1) is it smarter to buy the stroker kit first or a turbo kit first..
2) those who have one/know anything about em, which is the best kit for the money between the JUN/BR/TT/SBR/AMS.. I know that seems extremely broad but ive been searching and results are not what im looking for..

Is it smart or recommended to upgrade to the crower rods in most cases, if you plan on getting up into the 600+hp ranges?


Just looking for something to buy, and need to start saving now...
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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almost all of the stroker kits are the same if i were you id definately get the crowers its better to be safe than sorry
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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i guess u need to ask yourself, "what size motor do i want?" & that will help u narrow it down. strokers are anywhere between 2.1-2.4L so there are a ton of options from roadrace style 2.2's to monster drag 2.4's from Mesa, AZ. just depends on you & how high u want to rev.

for example, Norris Design's 2.2L stroker can safely rev to 9200 RPM with no problems but your transmission will not shift that high..
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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1) I went with turbo first, I don't think it matters which one you go for first. I think the turbo first will give you the least amount of downtime.
2)I am going with the AMS kit, as it has been proven many times. You can't go wrong with Buschur or AMS. Don't know much about TT or SBR. Jun is just too much money.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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Me....I would go turbo 1st...just not push it....dyno tune it at the best shop....enjoy the turbo while you wait for the stroker...when its IN...turn the turbo at full crank.

you stock internals are strong enough...use it for some safe fun...having the stroker first wont be as fun....BUT...thats just ME.

For the stroker go BR or AMS...theyre known..and maybe a safer choice since they have a reputation they worry about tarnishing with a bad product...I hear TT is great too...but never dealt with them

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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
As of the first of the year im going to prolly buy a stroker kit for my IX..

Question is:
1) is it smarter to buy the stroker kit first or a turbo kit first..
2) those who have one/know anything about em, which is the best kit for the money between the JUN/BR/TT/SBR/AMS.. I know that seems extremely broad but ive been searching and results are not what im looking for..

Is it smart or recommended to upgrade to the crower rods in most cases, if you plan on getting up into the 600+hp ranges?


Just looking for something to buy, and need to start saving now...
I've run a stroker and a 2.0L in my car with a large turbo and I'd recommend that you save some money and stick with the 2.0L. In my experience, the stroker isn't a worth while investment as the turbos today are so good. The stock bottom end can handle a tremendous amount of power. Invest in a good turbo kit and supporting mods and you'll have yourself one hell of a car.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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1) I went with turbo first, I don't think it matters which one you go for first. I think the turbo first will give you the least amount of downtime.
2)I am going with the AMS kit, as it has been proven many times. You can't go wrong with Buschur or AMS. Don't know much about TT or SBR. Jun is just too much money.

Now that you explained to me that it dont really matter which one i do first(thanks alot) im planning on driving my evo a fair amount but wanna be able to hit 10's if i wanted to.. What turbo kit is conservative enough to run on the streets but tear up the track once a month or so?

Curt brown drives his ALOT and he runs low 9's... Saw it the other day at the track sick car!

Sooo The next question is GT30,35,40,42? which one is good for what i asked.. (dont mind this but i do occasionally street race, highway pulls, but not all the time)

Again, any opinions on a reliable daily drivable kit? BR or AMS...

Whats the deal with the new BR kits and why are they $1500 more than thier previous kits...?
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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What turbo are you gonna go with?
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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id say 2.0 or 2.3 37R
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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I've run a stroker and a 2.0L in my car with a large turbo and I'd recommend that you save some money and stick with the 2.0L. In my experience, the stroker isn't a worth while investment as the turbos today are so good. The stock bottom end can handle a tremendous amount of power. Invest in a good turbo kit and supporting mods and you'll have yourself one hell of a car.

I'll run with this idea, what will my car be able to push reliable wise.. Im not a maniac but eventually would like to hit 10's... is that possible with the stock block, and if so what would your idea of "good supporting mods" be.. ( bigger FMIC,FUEL,IGNITION, ect.?)


One other thing... Will i have to upgrade again from when i purchase my EXEDY TWIN PLATE or will it be ok with any amount of power i will push just from a turbo kit and maybe ALKY?
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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What turbo are you gonna go with?
Was looking very strongly at the AMS GT35R kit and or the BUSCHUR RACING GT35R kit...


My only question is between the 2 which one is better? and i noticed that BR uses the stock exhaust manifold look while AMS uses a tubular one.. Are the new BR turbo kits the 40R 42R and bigger worth the extra $1500 for them.. Really didnt see the difference
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
I'll run with this idea, what will my car be able to push reliable wise.. Im not a maniac but eventually would like to hit 10's... is that possible with the stock block, and if so what would your idea of "good supporting mods" be.. ( bigger FMIC,FUEL,IGNITION, ect.?)


One other thing... Will i have to upgrade again from when i purchase my EXEDY TWIN PLATE or will it be ok with any amount of power i will push just from a turbo kit and maybe ALKY?
What's your budget? Hitting the 10's isn't that hard but it can be hell on a daily driven car. Be prepared for some "quirks" that come with a car making this much power especially if you're going to drive it every day. I don't care what anyone says but a stand alone ECU can be a real pain in the *ss. Anyone who disagrees with me hasn't tried to start their car when it's below freezing.

If you haven't purchased the Exedy yet, hold off. I had an Exedy twin disk when I was making about 550 awhp and wasn't overly impressed. The Tilton clutch is more expensive but worth looking at.

Be realistic about your goals and take advice from people who have done what you'd like to do. There's so much BS on these forums and 95% of it comes from people who have very little first hand experience.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
Was looking very strongly at the AMS GT35R kit and or the BUSCHUR RACING GT35R kit...


My only question is between the 2 which one is better? and i noticed that BR uses the stock exhaust manifold look while AMS uses a tubular one.. Are the new BR turbo kits the 40R 42R and bigger worth the extra $1500 for them.. Really didnt see the difference
Don't mess with a 40r or a 42r. These turbos bring you into a whole new ball game. My last setup was a 42r and it was not something that I'd want to drive on the street very often. Also, this requires a substantial budget and you have to be slightly insane.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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What's your budget? Hitting the 10's isn't that hard but it can be hell on a daily driven car. Be prepared for some "quirks" that come with a car making this much power especially if you're going to drive it every day. I don't care what anyone says but a stand alone ECU can be a real pain in the *ss. Anyone who disagrees with me hasn't tried to start their car when it's below freezing.

If you haven't purchased the Exedy yet, hold off. I had an Exedy twin disk when I was making about 550 awhp and wasn't overly impressed. The Tilton clutch is more expensive but worth looking at.

Be realistic about your goals and take advice from people who have done what you'd like to do. There's so much BS on these forums and 95% of it comes from people who have very little first hand experience.

Thanks, my budget for the turbo kit would be flexable, meaning i wanna do it once, and do it correct.. If i had to pay a little more for QUALITY then it means i will.. As for the supporting mods, i will have to take that into consideration also when purchasing the kit because im sure there are many misc. parts that are required to safely maintain my car and yet make it hellafast. Again im trying to be as realistic as i can when considereing mods/quarter mile times/HP figures. I guess 10's are not real far away but i wanna have something that is consistant and fun to drive and something that i can beat up on all the local cobra's ect.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Thanks, my budget for the turbo kit would be flexable, meaning i wanna do it once, and do it correct.. If i had to pay a little more for QUALITY then it means i will.. As for the supporting mods, i will have to take that into consideration also when purchasing the kit because im sure there are many misc. parts that are required to safely maintain my car and yet make it hellafast. Again im trying to be as realistic as i can when considereing mods/quarter mile times/HP figures. I guess 10's are not real far away but i wanna have something that is consistant and fun to drive and something that i can beat up on all the local cobra's ect.

Sounds like you need a 50 trim from AMS with the 2.3l stroker
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