Basicaly i got my new IX this week. My last car was an ls1 camaro and off the bottle it made well over 400whp. My PLAN for this car is to match that power level, on pump gas, with as broad of a power band as possible (road racing/daily driving). Now without just throwing random boltons now just to upgrade them later, what is my best route to reach this goal? Keep in mind driveability and reliability are a concern.

Thank you

-alan-

 

Intake + TBE + MBC + FMIC + 280 cam + exhaust Manifold + bigger injector+fuel pump +ECU tune=370 + whp w/driveablility and reliability

 

I was under the impression that there are no good cams for the IX, And the FMIC needs to be upgraded already?

 

The 280 cam should be out very soon like this month ! If you upgrade the FMIC to a bigger one, you should be able to run a bit more boost,may be 2-3 psi safely !!

 

Not sure about the cams, but the factory intercooler will never flow as much air as an upgraded one. I have been reading on here that there are good cams coming soons (Revolver, HKS, etc should have some out soon). Yet again though anything done as far as intake, FMIC, etc should be followed almost immedately with a tune. Wont see any gains without one. The IX's are seeming to make much more power with the same mods over the VIII's, so your starting out on a great platform. Good luck!

 

TBE + MBC/EBC + alcohol/water injection + Tune

 

id do intercooler and piping and meth injection but your still probobly not even gonna be over 400whp for the setup your talking about '' a broad power band'' id go with everything that was mentioned plu an ams 50 trim turbo kit you will have fast spool up and around 450 ish with pump gas and meth

 

i came from a 2001 camaro SS (LS1) myself... good luck with your car and welcome.

i have a 8, and with the mods below, my car is faster than my old SS, but my old SS was bone stock down to the paper filter (just had subframe connectors, and !CAGS).

i had to cam my evo for it to feel like my LS1 did stock.

 

I am not an expert on IX but on my 05 evo8 I can achieve 400hp without turbo upgrade or meth. This is the best way to setup your car in my opinion so you will be all set for a turbo upgrade.

Full tbe ( i use tanabe concept g blue which is really nice and very affordable ), intake ( i have hks racing suction), fmic + licp (I use ams), cams and gears ( I use hks 272 cams and hks gears) bigger upper ic pipe if you want will get you a few more hp and its fun to have a cool sound bov like the hks ssqv, fuel pump is a definate (walbro 255lph), I would say injectors but you will have to upgrade those probably if you get a turbo so I am trying to set you up where you wont have to change much of anything when upgrading to a turbo like the ams 50 trim + meth. I don't think I am leaving anything out, obviously your shop will set you up with boost so thats about it.

 

I had planned on TBE/filter/mbc/tune...If some cams come out that actualy make power i will go that route, but wont the factory turbo limmit me? Wouldnt it be better to upgrade to a slightly larger one, and base my boltons around THAT turbo? Or can i get close to 400whp without it?

 

DontRevMe, I apologize for some of these answers. I've been gone a little while and apparently the noobtrain arrived during that time.

Yes, to get "well over 400whp" as you put it on an Evo with pump gas, it's going to require at least a 50-trim. If you're one of the people that refers to using meth/alky injection as "pump gas," then you can do it with a lesser turbo maybe, but for true pump gas, which for you is only 91oct (ick), you're going to need a 50-trim, BR3065, or GT3071. Even then, trying to run it daily on 91oct without turbo lag is going to be difficult. If you're willing to run alky 24/7 like many of us do, then you can easily eclipse 400whp with a larger selection of turbos and get to the higher 400s on the aforementioned turbos (fyi, I'm only speaking Dynojet numbers).

Now, to fix a few of these poor responses:

- Trustz, don't go overboard. You don't need to keep recommending an intake - it is not needed nor desired.
- a 280 "cam" does not make power by itself and there are no good cams yet available - don't claim there WILL be later this month or whatever. When they are on the market and making good power, then they are available. Until then, it's all speculation. Plus, it's "cams," not "cam." Doing just the exhaust cam has proven NOT to make extra power on a IX
- No reason to suggest upgraded injectors
- No, an FMIC won't allow him to run 2-3 more psi safely, wtf. Our stock FMIC is perfectly mated to the stock turbo and does not need to be upgraded. For the price, the gains are very weak. This mod isn't useful until you're pushing the stock turbo to its limit (26+psi on race gas or alky) or when you upgrade the turbo
- Jimi, what do you mean by "I can achieve 400hp"? Did you or didn't you? You can't just say that you "can" if you haven't done it, and if you have done it, then you don't say you "can" - you say you "have." Plus, you said 400hp, which is crank horsepower and therefore meaningless in this thread. We are talking about "well over 400whp," and no, you can't make 400whp with those mods you listed. The worst thing you said was to get the HKS SSQV for the cool sound. You gotta be kidding me...

 

Thanks for the response. Personaly I am not new in any way to cars, and modifications, but turbo's are a whole new world for me. Ive just read the FAQ on alcohol injection and that looks like something i may be interested in.

EDIT - and just for perspective, My car isnt broken in, so i havent even touched boost yet.. Who knows, maybe 350~whp will be enough. Well...is it ever realy enough

 

You were missed.

 

I must say, After spending time on sites like ls1tech for a few years.. I am a bit worried about the "help" aka biased opinions I've seen on evom so far.

 

If you intend on upgrading your turbo to something much larger (50 trim or bigger) then most of the parts you have been recommended to are going to become useless. IE the intake, wont fit a larger turbo, useless, an exhaust manifold that fits the stock turbo will only fit a 20g and a few select custom turbos, there is a company making turbo kits with 30r's and 35r's that bolt onto the stock manifold for a "stealth" approach. Really the only parts that you will get now and still use if you decide to upgrade your turbo is a TBE (depending on the turbo kit you go with a new downpipe may come with the kit) a boost controller, cams, cam gears, and a few other parts. AEM ems would be a good thing to get, then you will be able to go with some monster cams like the JUN 272's or HKS 280s and get them to idle well. After having my car for about 1 month I started to modifiy it, im definatly glad I waited. Now I have exactly what im going to do written down in order,

1st round of mods (completed) TBE, MBC, reflash, boost gauge.
2nd round of mods - Transmission rebuild by shepard racing (my trans. is grinding so this is why its happening so soon) Exedy HD twin disk clutch.
3rd round of mods- ams FMIC w/ upper IC pipe, hks 280's with findanza camgears
4th round of mods - gt37r turbo kit, alky, aem ems
5th round of mods- Built 2.0L bottom end & rebuilt transfer case with limited slip front diferential.

Im sure everything will break a lot on the way, but hey like sleet will tell you, its a race car.