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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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RNR FMIC...
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 240Z TwinTurbo
Not to spoil your party, but I am not sure what that design has gained you in the performance department. This design has only removed one 180 deg bend and replaced it with a 110deg bend. In addition, the inlet know runs right into a wall before making its way to the core. I am not saying the design doesn't work, but that I cannot see it being any better, but perhaps worse, than routing the piping in a similar fashion as stock.

In addition, I now understand why you have to cut your factory tray to make this setup work. Negating the ability of the tray to do its job is reason enough not to go with such a design. Again, if that is the only option then you do what you can, but it is clearly not the only option. If you are limited for space then you do what you need to do to make it fit, but if you can you should always design your setup to minimize potential problem areas.

Again, I am not saying this setup doesn't work, but I don't think shortening the pipe and making the charge smack a wall has provided any gains over a stock like configuration. This is my $.02 so I am not offended if you don't agree with what I have said.
No offense taken. The question from the 1st post was asking for options and suggestions on I/C’ selections.

I’m happy with my selection and I hope everyone who makes their purchase on upgraded components can say the same thing, including you.

Many options out there for I/C's pick the one that best suits your needs and reason(s) for wanting to upgrade from stock. Buschur offers a couple of different designs. There are several good vendors out there that actually test their components and publish those results. The key to purchasing anyone’s “upgraded” components is

Is it really better than stock. People will sell/buy anything, make sure your vendor can back up what he claims and will stand behind his product.



Lastly it is a little difficult to discuss air flow and thermo dynamics with some who uses verbiage like "I can't see" and "I don't think".



Perhaps you can suggest an alternate I/C to the guy as well?



Have a nice day
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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I like the AMS one, its proven and it looks freakin secksey!
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Lastly it is a little difficult to discuss air flow and thermo dynamics with some who uses verbiage like "I can't see" and "I don't think".
That was funny

I have a Ph.D. in engineering and was also a professor of engineering at FSU. Why don't you start and I will try my best to keep up with you, Big Daddy.

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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Thermodynamics, Gibbs free energy, Henderson-hasselbach equation, good God that is bringing up some bad college chemistry memories....

I would invest into the AMS or Nisei fmic...

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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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I m using the Nisei Competition FMIC, love it! I would say AMS, Buschur or Nisei!!!! can't go wrong with either one.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Redline06
RNR FMIC...
uh rnr is a modified xs power unit, but works great and still looks nice gets the job done period. I guess you pay a lil more for from RNR though for welding the inlets sideways and welding their name on the top. Another thumbs up for XS power though
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Nisei...........I had the street core wit a dyno in 68 degrees made 340hp with supporting mods......with the competition core I made 342 and it was a 108 degrees...A 40 degree differance and the same power in my opinion it did its job hands down.....Good luck getting one word is they are sold out until December......NISEI
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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I have the rmr race core it runs awesome, looks great too.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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I have the rmr race core it runs awesome, looks great too.
No doubt I seen one on a honda put out 704hp so I am convinced lol
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DUROEVO
Nisei...........I had the street core wit a dyno in 68 degrees made 340hp with supporting mods......with the competition core I made 342 and it was a 108 degrees...A 40 degree differance and the same power in my opinion it did its job hands down.....Good luck getting one word is they are sold out until December......NISEI
Wow!! impressive!!
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mchuang
uh rnr is a modified xs power unit, but works great and still looks nice gets the job done period. I guess you pay a lil more for from RNR though for welding the inlets sideways and welding their name on the top. Another thumbs up for XS power though
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How did you come to this conclusion.. am not searching **** point me to a thread or something..
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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That was funny

I have a Ph.D. in engineering and was also a professor of engineering at FSU. Why don't you start and I will try my best to keep up with you, Big Daddy.
Sorry Dr. I should not have poked fun at you. My apologies
WE are really getting off topic here.

People ask for assistance here and when it is given other folks woud rather complain than help.

The guy is asking for options, care to suggest any, .....Dr?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Mango
Sorry Dr. I should not have poked fun at you. My apologies
WE are really getting off topic here.

People ask for assistance here and when it is given other folks woud rather complain than help.

The guy is asking for options, care to suggest any, .....Dr?
There is no need to apologize to me, I just thought it was funny. In reviewing my post I don't see that I complained about anything. I am only trying to make what I believe to be a valid point. You can agree or disagree with what I have said. The emphasis is to get you to think and make up your own mind.

"I don't think" this is rocket science. Choose a core that fits your desired flow requirements while providing maximum efficiency and minimizing pressure drop. There are several cores to choose from the various vendors. I would not opt to run the inlet as pictured previously because "I don't see" that shortening the pipes and adding that 110deg turn, that requires the charge the smack the wall, as being an improvement.

So, if I did not already have my setup I would do the following. Determine your ultimate hp requirements. Call the various shops and get the flow specs on the core they use to make sure it meets your requirements. Ask if it requires the tray to be cut and then make your decision accordingly. I am sure there are other questions you will have, but you get the point.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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How did you come to this conclusion.. am not searching **** point me to a thread or something..
There is a guy who posted in the show and shine forum that he just got a new turbo kit from rnr. I saw pic of the kit which is posted here and looked at the intercooler and saw it was a XS power unit. at the top it has RNR Welded on it and the outlets are modified. Thread https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=222823
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