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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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Mike,

In addition to the 3 different types of alcohol out there you must also double check the size of the nozzle, typically the #7 is the standard but considering you are running such turbokit perhaps the next two higher nozzle sizes are more appropiate(# 10 and #15)

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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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i think it could be a number of things, is you alky VTA? also with all the mods hae you done a boost leak test? you def should do one with the amount of mods u have
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Mike,

In addition to the 3 different types of alcohol out there you must also double check the size of the nozzle, typically the #7 is the standard but considering you are running such turbokit perhaps the next two higher nozzle sizes are more appropiate(# 10 and #15)

Just a thought..

Carlos

This could be an option you look into also, but as for me and Extrevemini, we both use M7 nozzles and Extrevemini made 508 AWHP and 445TQ on his TT 50 Trim....
The TT and AMS guys recommend running the M15 nozzle
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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do a boost leak test!
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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Drugs are bad mmmmkay
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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100% meth...why run 50/50?
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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(off topic) but are you from jackson new jersey?
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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Have you compared your numbers to anyone else with the same SBR kit. It might be the kit. They sent my friend a 16g insted of a 20g for his wrx
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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Has anyone made good numbers w/ the SBR kit? I doubt it is the turbokit alone holding you back that much as the HAFE is a pretty good manifold and its a standard garret turbo. Start doing basic troubleshooting: boost leak test, compression test, fresh plugs, good gas, and maybe try running pure meth. I don't think your 50/50 mix is the culprit though. Sounds mechanical
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Has anyone made good numbers w/ the SBR kit?
I'm surprised that this kit has been out for so many months and there are so few positive results to report. Can't someone just put five gallons of C16 in the tank and let a competent tuner throw 30+ psi on a 3076 HAFE kit and post results on a good old fashioned dynojet??
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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These are the same kits that RRE installs for people too right? I dont remember seeing any threads with people complaining about them?
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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i would switch from 50/50 and run straight meth
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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I think you need bigger injectors. I have the peakboost turbo kit with the gt 3076r turbo and run 780 injectors, my car made 445 at 25 psi on just 110 race gas.I also have hks 280 cams with the autronic stand a lone.
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Dude something is definitely not right. Without even looking at the horsepower.... something is wrong by looking at the torque.... from turning the boost up 3psi and adding mucho timing from addition of the meth you should have gained massive power on that turbo. Its something we dont see now but definitely try and 100% meth. Also... what boost gauge are you using?

BTW I heard you had a ton of races the other night on 37!! One of them was my brother with the 91 AWD Talon.
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Alright bud,
this is what you need to get the bigger numbers.
You can run a higher concentration of meth. That's great. However, if you go 100% you'll get a lot of evaporation. 75% meth 25% water will yield results almost as good as 100% meth and you won't lose a lot of meth on a daily basis due to evaporation. Meth boils at 93 degrees if IIRC. Add water and it jumps to high 100's low 200's based on concentration.

Check the nozzle size. The 15gph nozzle from SMC is the proper size for your target HP. Also make sure you have the dipswitches in the proper position (if using SMC kit)... I think I read SMC somewhere....

Also, target AFR will be in the 11's. This is due to the fact that the meth will make you reading indicate richer. Because the 02 sensor gives you a reading on the meth and the fuel. Meth stoich is like 8.9 or something close and fuel is 14.7. A reading of 11.5 would actually be around mid to high 12's on fuel. Many people tune too lean because they added meth. The smaller the nozzle the higher the target afr (due to less meth and more fuel)

MiVEC. Are they tuning your mivec properly? Variable cam timing is a great way to get awesome power numbers. Full retard just after peak boost is key for high rpm power. Lots of advance down low for excellent scavenging and turbo spool, not to mention GOBS of ****ing torque.

Spark plug gap: You should have between .022 and .028" spark plug gap. Anything higher will cause you to break up big time under boost.

Who's doing your tuning? I'm sorry, but those numbers suck and you should have got a lot more from the meth injection.

Do you have any exhaust leaks? Double check the header to manifold and turbo gaskets.

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