its for a friend.. im ordering a cermamatalic (or wtf ever) stage 2.. i dont want somethign to big.. n i dont want a twin plate..

ill let u know about the turbo!

pm me sometime

 

Good for you. So do I. Are you planning to do all the welding for free for everyone else that needs a kit? Yeah, I thought not. So what's your point? Everyone who does not want to find someone to build their manifolds for free will have to pay for them, agreed? So they're not in the same situation as you think you are.

However, once you start your header project, keep us informed about how well you do, how great it fits, whether the turbo clears the radiator, how much the flanges and materials cost, and how long it takes. I'd bet by the time your're finished, the guy working at 7-11 will have made enough money to buy a Shearer manifold and have been driving for a season...

 

Did you read what I said? YOU CAN USE THE STOCK MANIFOLD. The only thing I have to fab up is one intercooler pipe and the exhaust. My friends works at an exhaust shop. I won't have to do any welding. You don't have to spend $3000 or even $2000 to run a GT35R, as long as you aren't afraid of paying an exhaust shop for some money do drop some beads. The above turbo is already flanged for the stock turbo, and has a flange for an external wastegate already built in. I'll have to:

1.) Fab up an exhaust (easy) (free for me, but we'll say $300 for custom job)
2.) oil lines & coolant lines ($50)
3.) buy mandrel bent pipe to connect to intercooler piping (and couplers) ($80)
4.) Buy a new manifold to turbo gasket to fit the turbo to my stock manifold ($20)
5.) Tial wastegate (or whatever is available) ($150)

Done. Turbo is $1290 so total cost is ($1290 + $300 + $50 + $80 + $20 + $150) = $1890 (thats if you pay a welder to weld your pipes). In my case I'll subtract the $300 and it will be $1590 for a GT35R setup. You don't have to spend $3000 to run this setup people...

 

Unfortunately, that kit will probably cost you about 100 HP and 500-1000 RPM in spool. Any turbo kit that attaches a GT-series turbo to the stock manifold compromises both spool and top end. You may save some money going that route, but you will not get the same performance out of it.

-Paul

 

This is what I was thinking but, you can port the stock manifold or just run a tubular manifold (ebay, megan, etc.) for not much extra.

 

and it would still would spool slower... would you screw a fat ugly woman or an attractive one?

 

Um...attractive.

 

Why would it spool slower? Is the buschur cast manifold that much larger? How can his manifold be so much better? I think people here are just in shock that you can actually just buy your own kit for much less and still get the same performance or better. Fat ugly women need lovin' too!

 

The exhaust housing for the "bolt-on" turbo does not flow that great. I doubt it will make any power above 500whp.

 

lol comparing a 4500 to a 3k kit nice....

You get what you pay for....Are you guys going to tell me a cast manifold will outflow hpf custom = length????

Doesnt buschur come with a 38mm wg and not a 44mm like hpf?

Do you get a custom 3.5" dp that incorporates the o2 housing with buschurs?

The turbo isnt the same as buchurs, HPF uses a t4 housing made by precision with anti surge ports..

You also get lower icp with hpf along with k&n filter and intake tube.

Compare the buschur kit to slowboy kit not hpf seriously..!!!

For $300 more why wouldnt you buy my kit LOL...you guys are funny but I forgot buschurs kit has been "proven"

 

How do you know? Have you dyno'd this turbo before?

 

This may win for stupidest post of the week. Buschur has the cheapest kits on the market. How can they be way over priced?

Are you seriously suggesting someone "fab" their own kit? Yea, that's a brilliant idea.

 

Sonicnofadz - You also might want to recheck your math. You won't find a tial for $150, cheap knock-off yes, but not the genuine. Also, if you want the cheap bolt-on turbo, why not go with a Buschur 20G for even less money.

 

Frankly, the Buschur 20G might be a better all around option than trying to use a 35R on a stock manifold.

The Buschur 20G is not a "cheap bolt on turbo" though...

There's really no point in discussing the issue further with Sonicnofadz. Someone will always have a "solution" to do something more cheaply, get it from their friend who knows someone, etc. etc. If you want a kit that works, and don't have the skill, time, interest, or equipment to fab it yourself, find a reputable vendor who stands behind his products, compare the various kits to each other in terms of your needs, the kit's completeness and cost, and buy whatever looks like it will fit your needs.

 

Buschur's 35R uses a Forced-Performance turbine housing and the HPF uses a T4 exhaust inlet, which makes the two turbos COMPLETELY different. It doesnt matter that they are both "GT35R." Theres so many different variations.