ok, both will be done by spring next year but $$ will only let me do one now. alky or cams? cams will be more cause ill be putting a tbelt at the same time plus install is probably more than with alky. only additional think with that i think would be head studs (obviously a tune with both). which will i get better numbers with?? maybe i should mention the cams will be 272 / 272

 

That's definitely a hard choice. The way I think is what are your ultimate goals? Make the mot power on stock turbo? Then alky first. Plan to upgrade in the future? Then cams. It's kind of a fine line and personally I'd do alky, then cams but I'd be doing the install in either case so of course factor that in. Also alot of people prefer not to run alky and that's fine, but it appears you aren't one of those kinds of peeps . Mainly cause they don't want to run it all the time or for safety reasons. Both are remedied by running a switch to turn pump on/off and using some method to switch fuel maps to a lower boost one and just get a safety device. Boom, problem solved. I think I went off on a tangent though.

 

My vote goes for Alky

 

To add, when you start doing internals, things get alot more expensive and quick. You're going to want to do as much as you can since you're bringing the head seal anyways and that includes valve springs and retainers as well as head studs. But in the end, if you're going to do both anways, does it really matter which you do first? You have to tune for both anyways. I would just ***** the sale forums and buy whatever deal you run across first, lol.

 

thanks for the input....to elaborate some, i do plan on upgrading the turbo. but i want to get the most out of the stocker before i ditch it. i understand what you mean about doin as much as i can once the head is cracked open. even though they arent "required" i will do springs/retainers with the cams...i dont know why one wouldnt.

the turbo choice is not made yet though....waiting to see what the new 20g / Green will do but that will probably be the one....i really dont wanna get too crazy. so obviously to maximize that i will want alky, therefore will have both (alky and cams) before the turbo. not to mention like i said wanting to squeeze the stocker to death

haha and im def not "one of those people" ...ill take every precaution to make sure stuff doesnt break but if ya wanna play you gotta pay right? i want it to be fast lol

and wazvette i cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not??? and i saw the post about your buildup from buschur...sounds sick!

 

Not sure on the 8 turbo, but for the 9, 400awhp is about all she's good for. Reason I said don't do cams unless you plan to go new turbo is because I'd only do it if I do other internals and the only benefit I see of that is to rev higher which the stock turbo really won't help at all with. Just wasted money. Since I plan to stay with stock turbo, that's why I'm going alky and calling it a day. To each's own.

 

sooo alky and wait till bigger turbo for cams (to see full benefit)?? and im not expecting near 400awhp on the stocker...maybe 350 if i do cams on it....damn IX's!!!! lol

 

go for alky if you want cheap power. Cam is good, but it gives a little rougher idle, no matter what the others say.
I did both. But if I really have to pick only one, I will pick alky. And you should only consider alky if you always take good care of your care mechanically.

 

ya know when your on the freeway in a stock evo and an SRT-4 creeps past you at full throttle? Thats what cams do, they seem to make the car pull harder at higher RPM not that your spinning the motor any higher you just have more power available @ higher engine RPM. I want alky too but with cams the resivor never runs dry and you make more power @ the same boost level.

 

BJ--i dont want "cheap power", i want power! lol like i said, i will have both done but one at a time here...so another vote for alky first

jr--im not quite stock so i dont think ill have a problem with an srt, unless they are pretty modded too. cams will be done, im just deciding which i wanna do first. cams will be more because of installation and ill most likely do springs and retainers...anyway...still dunno..probably alky first, cams in the spring......ahhh i hate it

 

if i was you i would get some cams and wait on the alky. look at all the staged uprgades for our cars if you follow that route you will have a more reliable and more powerfull car.

 

there has never been a cam that makes as much power as a meth kit is capable of.

 

i know but imo i think the cams would be more efficient and you wouldnt have to get a wide band and failsafe w/ cams

 

true but many widebands dont read real accurate with meth anyways, also Im thinking from a stoplight perspective. Cams are safer, but a Evos seem to love meth. The torque hit is amazing.

 

I would get cams first then the alky kit later. thats what I did and I've been happy with that setup. alky is something you have to refill. Cams is power all the time. they are both good routes though.