thector1

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Thanks for the test. Looking foward to see more of this

Warrtalon

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Good job, MAxx, that is a much more useful dynograph. What I see are:

- Very little gain in peak torque
- No LOSS in spool
- No mid-range difference
- Great top-end gains in tq/hp
- Gains are not through the entire powerband unfortunately

Warrtalon

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The only post in this thread not relevant to the topic is yours. I did not "take a shot" at Works. I was responding to his comment, and I find it very interesting that you would go so far as to take a single line OUT OF CONTEXT as if it was my whole post. No, it was one point out of 4 or 5 in that same post.

If I was just looking for opportunities to takes shots at Works, I would have done so in this thread:

Interesting info on Works tuned Evo...maybe the truth?

But look, my response was on behalf of Works and giving them the benefit of the doubt rather than immediately blaming them for shoddy $600 mail-in flashes.

ranmonbu

For those of us who plan to keep the stock turbo...Has any other brand/combination of cams on a IX shown a more useful overall gain ( ie. more area under the curve ) than the Cosworth cams? I drove an untuned stock turbo Evo IX with Cosworth cams, downpipe, test pipe, and HKS cat back and it felt strong from the seat of the pants.

Warrtalon

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Someone actually put in Cosworth cams but isn't tuned? Strange.

Check out the GSC 272s and 280s - they are showing good gains, but we do need more data.

ranmonbu

Warrtalon...The car was untuned when I drove it. The owner had a tune scheduled for a later date. I owe him a follow-up pm to see how it worked out. My IX posted 306whp/306tq on the Tuning Technologies Dynojet with a Shiv tune on 91 octane and a tbe. I've only run HPDE's...11 this year. It seems that with the Cosworth cams I could improve my times....no loss of spool up or torque...but significant topend gains...hmmmm...

~EVILEVO~

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hmm...but we were talking about their bolt on part, NOT their tuning...

thank you guys for staying ON topic

Warrtalon

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Ranmobu, there is more to be gained on the road course from other mods than just some top-end. You want mid-range more than top-end when road racing. You should probably add an MBC and run some more boost on higher octane, but leave the tune where it is so that it's fairly conservative. The cams may also be a good addition, but I wouldn't consider them your next step.

EvilEvo, yes, I know parts!=tuning, but I was defending myself with an applicable example. The parts work fine, but they do not provide any gains over less expensive parts, that's all. It doesn't matter anyway.

~EVILEVO~

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Warr I know, I was just saying not, meaning to direct it toward you.

PVD04

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You keep saying this, but it really doesn't apply in this situation. Sacrificing low or mid-range power for top end is not great for the road course, but if you can gain top-end power without sacrificing low or mid-range power then there is no downside. These cams seem to be a great addition to a car that spends time on a road course.

-Paul

Warrtalon

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Yes, there's no sacrifice in low-end or mid-range, but there is no gain either. I was just saying there are other mods he can do right now that will give power gains through the whole powerband for less money and less installation effort, not that getting the cams wouldn't be a good thing. Usually, cams provide solid gains through the entire powerband, so these results are slightly disappointing.

20psiMR

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22.4WHP Peak Gain
9.6WTQ Peak Gain

Thats untuned by the way. He has no flash what so ever on that car. 22 horsepower without any tuning for the mods he has, NOR the cams is pretty good. Ive heard way too many stories about the lobes on GSC cams shearing off, that I would rather go with a quality (read:name brand(OMG NAME BRANDS COST TOO MUCH! - Warr)) billet product myself.

Also, just to throw this in to the pot. At SEMA, Greddy had evo mivec cams on display. They may be on the way as well. HKS had theirs too, but ya we've given up on those.

OFF TOPIC!:
Warr just to clear the air, the reason I didnt buy a buscher exhaust was because I didnt like the sound (too loud, helix and megan same thing), nor the way it looked on an evo9 JDM bumper. I dont have anything against buscher, I plan on getting ported coated exhaust mani from him. It just bugs me when out of the blue you take shots at people, even if they are slight. Its not necessary. People dont always want your package, and some people do. I know you make money off the packages you sell, and I dont have a problem with that. But no need to make people feel like crap because they didnt line your wallet. Seriously dude.

meanmud

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These cams with the valve springs and Ti retainers could provide me with more revs - Having the IX's 4th gear can be a real drag on road courses. In addition - The pesty WR turbo w/cams (Evo VIII) pulls on me in the long straights This could benefit me a bit??

We simply need more results

KOEvo

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Is the 2nd, most recently added, lesser modified car flash tuned?

After reading 2 back-to-back posts by you, i have came to the conclusion that you are completely delusional...

trinydex

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what was involved in putting the mivec head and the 2.4 block together?