I noticed some people are experimenting with E85. I contacted a fuel supplier nearby to see if I could source some and he suggested running M85 which is essentially the same but 85% methanol and 15% gasoline. Does anyone have any experience with this? I am assuming that it would have a similar effect on the fuel lines/filter as the ethanol does maybe a bit more pronounced as the methanol has a tendancy to leave calcium like deposits in the lines. He also suggested using a coffee filter to prefilter the fuel before putting it in the tank...

Any positive/negative ideas as far as this is concerned?

 

BTW the octane of M85 is 129. I am not sure what the stoich of it is...

 

Do a search. There has been quite a few threads started on E85.

 

Not asking about E85 moron. If you had read this then you would know that before posting the typical "Do a Search". Also if you do a search for M85 you will only come up with this thread!

 

Take it easy newbie . I didn't mean to like an A$$h*le. A lot of those threads actually point you to other links that can answer your questions. I'm very interested in the whole thing myself.

 

I would be concerned about using M85 as methanol is significantly more corrosive than ethanol. I'm sure you would be able to extract more power out of the M85, but I'm not sure how the fuel system would handle it. Also, if I recall correctly the stoichometric ratio of methanol is lower than that of ethanol, meaning you would get worse gas mileage with M85 than I do with E85 (currently around 15-16 mpg with mixed driving).

-Paul

 

what did you do to be able to run e-85 ?

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=237238

 

Where can you get M85?

 

For reals, get off the hateraid. People like you are why so this forum has a negetive image.

 

thats a great way to get help....

insult useful people with information and who gave you a free bump so someone else with an answer can help you...


suck it

 

oh and btw.... methanol goes for 25$ for a 5 gallon drum and 250 for a 55 gallon drum....

better off running 110, moron!

 

At a fuel supplier about 30 mins from my house. There isn't any E85 stations close by and they don't carry it so that is out as of right now...

And as far as the cost goes, I can get a 55 gallon drum for a LOT less than 250. Try less than half that. If it wasn't economical I wouldn't even question it. But since so far there has been only one person with anything to say on the matter, I will decide on my own to experiment with it or not.

As far as pissing off people who are knowledgeable on this or any other forum I visit. If you respond to a question with a "Use the Search" response, then you obviously have nothing of value to add to the conversation and need to mind your business and stay out of the thread. Also, as I stated before, for you guys that want to argue about it, run a search for M85 and see what you get...

 

Another thing on the M85, prior to using it in your car i would let it sit up against some raw aluminum and see how the aluminum holds up. Ethanol is capable of corroding aluminum, but with the 15% gasoline added it does not appear to have a significant effect. Methanol, on the other hand, is significantly more corrosive than Ethanol and the 15% gasoline may not be enough dilution to prevent corrosion. You may find good results with something closer to M50 that you could make by mixing some M85 with gasoline. This would provide you with a high octane fuel at a cheap cost with less corrosion risk.

-Paul

 

There is some considerable knowledge in the Cart camp in regards to using Methanol mixes and Ethanol mixes. It seems from what I have already read and from what I have heard so far from you that there is some significant risks to the aluminum fuel lines. The only alternative would be to run some plastic/nylon fuel lines (Not a fan of that). I was advised not to use a fuel filter with the mix as it would basically break down the filter which would pose as much of a risk as the unfiltered fuel...

I am looking forward to seeing the results from your E85 experimentation.