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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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http://mitsuoafl.com/board/showthread.php?t=9293-30psi stockeverything 4g64 motor without evo8 head,

http://mitsuoafl.com/board/showthread.php?t=8980-25psi video stock 4g64

http://mitsuoafl.com/board/showthread.php?t=8673-And this is a dyno that i found quickly. THIS IS HOW MUCH POWER IT MAKES WITHOUT THE EVO8 DOHCAMS

so my point hail to the 4g64 and bow..lol

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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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I would say 7900 with good rods/rod bolts, and light weight pistons with upgraded wrist pins.

I have seen and know a few to go to 8700-9000 with the 100mm stroke and it just baffles my mind.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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head over to club3g.com im not to much in detail about every aspect.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GregGSC
I would say 7900 with good rods/rod bolts, and light weight pistons with upgraded wrist pins.

I have seen and know a few to go to 8700-9000 with the 100mm stroke and it just baffles my mind.
To keep it safe I say 7300-7600 rev limit any higher the rod ratio starts exceeding that of Formula 1 race cars.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GregGSC
I would say 7900 with good rods/rod bolts, and light weight pistons with upgraded wrist pins.

I have seen and know a few to go to 8700-9000 with the 100mm stroke and it just baffles my mind.

oh man I was going to say that!!!
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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The prevailing consensus in the race engine industry is that durability takes a real dive above piston speeds of 25 m/sec, and piston ring sealing efficiency takes a dump around 30 m/sec.

For any 100mm stroke crank, 25 m/sec works out to 7500rpm. Unless one has deep pockets, a lift, engine building equipment/skills, and access to spares, adhering to that figure is wise advice. Spinning any motor faster than necessary is the quickest way to kill it, and high rpm coupled with the short rod/stroke ratio (1.5:1) of conventional 100mm 4G63 strokers doesn't make a recipe for either efficient high rpm operation or longevity.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
The prevailing consensus in the race engine industry is that durability takes a real dive above piston speeds of 25 m/sec, and piston ring sealing efficiency takes a dump around 30 m/sec.

For any 100mm stroke crank, 25 m/sec works out to 7500rpm. Unless one has deep pockets, a lift, engine building equipment/skills, and access to spares, adhering to that figure is wise advice. Spinning any motor faster than necessary is the quickest way to kill it, and high rpm coupled with the short rod/stroke ratio (1.5:1) of conventional 100mm 4G63 strokers doesn't make a recipe for either efficient high rpm operation or longevity.
probably the most sensible reply of the thread...I hadn't even bothered to see what the mean piston speed was on the 2.3. That 100mm gets it up really quick.
my 250 at 20k doesn't even hit 25m/s
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Maybe that's why most of the Japanese tuners stick to 2.2L's and custom cranks. What's the piston speed on those?
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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The 2.2L uses a 94mm stroke, which gives a piston speed of 25 m/sec right around 8000rpm, which is ~500rpm higher than a 100mm stroker.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Good info Ted! I assume those speed specifications on durability take into account having light weight pistons and rods and that a stock 4g64 would really be in sad shap if you reved it to 7500 very often due to the heavier stock parts correct?

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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Good info Ted! I assume those speed specifications on durability take into account having light weight pistons and rods and that a stock 4g64 would really be in sad shap if you reved it to 7500 very often due to the heavier stock parts correct?

Keith
Yes, that is definitely a safe assumption.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
The 2.2L uses a 94mm stroke, which gives a piston speed of 25 m/sec right around 8000rpm, which is ~500rpm higher than a 100mm stroker.
also has a slightly better rod ratio and no doubt has a higher mass flow rate at 25m/s than the 2.3
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GregGSC
I would say 7900 with good rods/rod bolts, and light weight pistons with upgraded wrist pins.
Ok
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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after the spring... maybe 7k ithink la
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
The prevailing consensus in the race engine industry is that durability takes a real dive above piston speeds of 25 m/sec, and piston ring sealing efficiency takes a dump around 30 m/sec.
What happens when the magic 25m/s and 30m/s marks are exceeded? And why?
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