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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Be careful, that isn't necessarily so, and certainly not in his case.

Since you didn't spin the motor that fast in the dyno chart, it's difficult to tell, but that may not be the best proposition for you either. In fact, you may find that you go faster NOT spinning it that fast. Plugging your numbers into the shift point calculator is the sure way to tell.
Our #s were over 600whp at 9000rpm and with not much timing. So taken it to 9500 shouldnt be much of a problem. At the track at 9500rpm the AEM logs showed Awesome knock resistant and a very nice AFR
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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I have your charts. I ran it through the calculator and extrapolated the last few hundred rpm. It looks like 9500rpm actually isn't enough to run the best times.

Don't break it!
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hel_if_ino
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Depends on your setup but bigger injectors are a must and a awesome tuner
I would talk to my mechanic Lucas at www.englishracing.net or John Reed at www.rrevmotorsports.com for advice they worked on my maps for over 2 weeks on E85 and saw were they could push it on drive ability and dyno and track now
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
I have your charts. I ran it through the calculator and extrapolated the last few hundred rpm. It looks like 9500rpm actually isn't enough to run the best times.

Don't break it!
Ah ill get ya new maps we changed the tune by quiet abit Anything over 40lbs of boost John set it up to pull alot of timing and from a dyno to the road and track as you know the tune are much different! I will pm you the new data logs and maps from our track run. I value your opinion very much and have followed you for a very long time Ted
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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What tires are you using ? are you stock rims ?
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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What tires are you using ? are you stock rims ?
Les Schwabs tire center up here in Oregon hook me up with Bf Goodrich TA Drag Radials with a tread wear of 0 LOL But it was the only tire they could find without going to smaller brakes or 16s
My account rep at Les Schwabs is in a meeting today try en to get me a sponsorship with them But we will see there big hotrod guys
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Dam nice im looking for some tires to run on my stockers.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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I added in over 4deg of timing at our 42psi spike and we did not pick up any more noise. We are going to get the 2nd spring back in the WG to see if we can get a more stable boost controll.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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words can not describe. very nice. i hope to be at 350 come summer
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucas English
I added in over 4deg of timing at our 42psi spike and we did not pick up any more noise. We are going to get the 2nd spring back in the WG to see if we can get a more stable boost controll.
What spring(s) are you using in the WG presently?
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 06:34 AM
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Nice numbers!
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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Not sure what springs I know with both in the lowest boost we can run is 28psi. Right now we can run about 12psi if we like.

What I did was leave the big one and cut the little one in half but I think the little one is doing noting now after I thought about it more.

Paul kept taking the car on 300mi road trips and having to load our pump gas map so I really wanted to keep the boost under 25psi and no meth. Now he is going to stay on the E85 so the 28psi should not be a problem with no meth.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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If you only have 12 psi worth of spring now, it isn't surprising you don't have enough control at the high boost levels you're running now. Remove and discard the cut small spring.

Install a new small spring that when combined with the present spring, equals the boost level you plan to run on base fuel. There is no reason to use any less spring pressure. Since E85 is the base fuel, a spring combination that works out to 28 psi (1.9 bar) should be ok.

This will resolve your issues and give the best possible boost control at high pressures.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
If you only have 12 psi worth of spring now, it isn't surprising you don't have enough control at the high boost levels you're running now. Remove and discard the cut small spring.

Install a new small spring that when combined with the present spring, equals the boost level you plan to run on base fuel. There is no reason to use any less spring pressure. Since E85 is the base fuel, a spring combination that works out to 28 psi (1.9 bar) should be ok.

This will resolve your issues and give the best possible boost control at high pressures.
That is why a dual solenoid type EBC is very nice to have. Can run as a low a boost pressure as you like(w/g spring limited of course) and as high of boost as you like as well(map sensor limited as well).
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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An EBC wouldn't do anything, but hurt this car.
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