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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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From: CaLi4nia... home of the ****ty 91 octane
Originally Posted by dxbevo9
i have
S1 cams
toda manifold
3" tbe
invidia O2
Greddy intercooler
works drop in
greddy profec b spec II EBC
ralli art thermostat
Ecutek custom flash
1.5 bar

419.7 Bhp / 420.8 trq external temp was ~21 'C



my friends car running the high boost....and different cams....is making so much less power than mine after 5500 Rpm...that is why on the street my car is faster...although when i drive his car it feels like it pulls harder...


anyways bosshog...how much millage have you put on your car with this setup at 1.7bar of boost? how do you drive..are you a moderate driver or beat hard on the car?

please let me know ... i am thinking of adding an FP Green...next and raise the boost to ~1.7...

and is your fuel equivilant to 97 oct (relative to us gas or europian)

thanks for the answers....cant wait to take my car to the track next week...
Was it you that had a friend that had bought the evo 9's hks cams? Did he get a result yet for that $1200 cams
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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It looks as if the power starts falling off sooner with the cosworths Your before hp curve is much flatter.
he had a crazy leak from the exhaust manifold... from what i remember, he saw ~25whp increase with the cossie cams on the Dyno Dynamics even with the leak, on high boost pressure and meth...

back to back testing i did and i saw 12-13whp increase on my car on the same Dyno Dynamics with much less bolt ons than other guys and 22psi spike and then i had a leak also from my greddy type-rs bov, which i changed it to the stock unit again until i install the tial unit i got...
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kouzman
he had a crazy leak from the exhaust manifold... from what i remember, he saw ~25whp increase with the cossie cams on the Dyno Dynamics even with the leak, on high boost pressure and meth...

back to back testing i did and i saw 12-13whp increase on my car on the same Dyno Dynamics with much less bolt ons than other guys and 22psi spike and then i had a leak also from my greddy type-rs bov, which i changed it to the stock unit again until i install the tial unit i got...
But he got that 25 whp with alch + cams he said.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rACerS
It looks as if the power starts falling off sooner with the cosworths Your before hp curve is much flatter.
thats the leaky header and the turbo maxed out
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dafunk630
here is my before and after dyno sheets with the cams. The final result was with the crappy megan header which was leaking and my stock turbo is maxed out as you can see.


Honestly, something is not right with that graph, I think your old tune/graph is more linear than the new one, the new does peak more but holds less, with the cams you would think there would be more up top, not less
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dafunk630
yes with meth
So, who is to say the results came from the cams.
Im sure most, if not all those results came from the alky, not the cams, Again not a good comparison.
Why does nobody have a straight before and after Cosi cam install, without leaks or the addition of other mods...
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Only the one works did that only got them 13 whp gain after their tune that's the only one I've seen like that.. And ppl would rather get tuned once not a bunch of times so they throw everything on at once
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Recks
Only the one works did that only got them 13 whp gain after their tune that's the only one I've seen like that.. And ppl would rather get tuned once not a bunch of times so they throw everything on at once
It just seems that both cams are making that 10-20 whp (being lenient here), ams got those gains from the gsc 1's and al also even said it in his thread he didn't know where people were getting this 30-40 whp gain, he figures 15-20 whp to be normal on the cosworths.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosshog
My friends 9 was maxed out at 417bhp before cams (all possible bolt ons except for cams - sort of like bushur stage 4 + hks manifold + fuel rail + 680cc injectors) after cosi cams 437bhp = gain of 20hp on an already maxed out car.
tell and show :]
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Why do I keep reading threads where people are comparing Cosi's and GSC S1's??

S1's are made for small turbo's..

Cosworth's and S2's are made for bigger turbos..

If you need a larger cam, then consider Cosworth or S2's..

It's like sayin; "I can't decide between HKS 272's or JUN 272's? I mean their the same size right?"
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Well, the Cosworths seem to work pretty good with the stock turbo too. Just check out that SoCal link.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by statix
So, who is to say the results came from the cams.
Im sure most, if not all those results came from the alky, not the cams, Again not a good comparison.
Why does nobody have a straight before and after Cosi cam install, without leaks or the addition of other mods...
if you people searched and checked carefully you would find this dynochart



The difference between these two dynoruns is the cossie cams!!!! Yes i had the leaking bov but the leak was there for both dynoruns, meaning before the cam install and after... Its 13whp increase on the Dyno Dynamics at 22psi spike, dropping almost immediately to 21psi and tapering to around 17psi to the redline...
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kouzman
if you people searched and checked carefully you would find this dynochart



The difference between these two dynoruns is the cossie cams!!!! Yes i had the leaking bov but the leak was there for both dynoruns, meaning before the cam install and after... Its 13whp increase on the Dyno Dynamics at 22psi spike, dropping almost immediately to 21psi and tapering to around 17psi to the redline...
Search is our friend.

Thats a nice increase for just adding cams straight up.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Frenchy4g63
Why do I keep reading threads where people are comparing Cosi's and GSC S1's??

S1's are made for small turbo's..

Cosworth's and S2's are made for bigger turbos..

If you need a larger cam, then consider Cosworth or S2's..

It's like sayin; "I can't decide between HKS 272's or JUN 272's? I mean their the same size right?"
Well the only thing is they both seem to make roughly the same gains...a peak gain of about 15 whp, so in theory why not buy the cosi's and gain the 15 ish whp and if you decide to go larger the cams will help out even more? Just a thought because I haven't seen enough dyno charts to make a solid conclusion myself.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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I'm thinking about getting the Cosworth 272 cams for my IX. I think this and a front mount intercooler is all I need to get over 340whp on pump gas and stock turbo on a MUSTANG dyno!
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