VIII Turbo vs IX Turbo (data)
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Nice man! Those TQ numbers are insane for a DD dyno and a stock(ish) turbo!
So if the boost was only reading 23psi or so on the dyno, don't you have a boost gauge in-car to see if you're seeing similar numbers to what you were running before? Those numbers are pretty hard to believe on that low of boost. You're still running 100% denatured alcohol, right?
So if the boost was only reading 23psi or so on the dyno, don't you have a boost gauge in-car to see if you're seeing similar numbers to what you were running before? Those numbers are pretty hard to believe on that low of boost. You're still running 100% denatured alcohol, right?
My gauge was reading 30psi, but the atmospheric pressure up here is much lower, so my gauge usually reads about 4psi higher than absolute manifold pressure. So, that's why I was pretty sure I was hitting 26psi even though the dyno's MAP sensor only said 21psi. Not sure if there was a leak at the tee or what. Anyway, since I made 371wtq on the last run after cranking boost, I'm sure the boost was higher than 21psi, and that's why I turned it back down to where I felt comfortable, which is the 324whp/348wtq setting.
Yes, 100% denatured alky.
Originally Posted by EvoTio
Warr, thanks for posting up your results and good luck in your quest for 11's at that altitude. How is the driveabilty of the IX turbo after your tune compared to the VIII turbo? IE spool up and part throttle response?
Originally Posted by WOT
nice results
How much better is the spool up / boost response of the 9 over the 8? why is 1 graph plotted against mph while another is plotted against rpm? the dyno runs were conducted @ the same place, why didnt they provide a decent hp overlay?
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Originally Posted by kouzman
Warr, help me understand the correction factors you use...
- What if you use no correction factor...
- How your numbers change due to the correction factor?
- The change from 1.3 correction factor to 1.14...what did it affect power wise?
- What if you use no correction factor...
- How your numbers change due to the correction factor?
- The change from 1.3 correction factor to 1.14...what did it affect power wise?
2) If no CF, then I make a raw 284whp/305wtq on this DD at this altitude. Weaksauce.
3) Just like any dyno with any correction factor - the numbers change, because you multiply the uncorrected numbers by the CF, and the CF changes according to the barometric pressure, temps, humidity, etc.
4) Not sure what you mean - there was no change from 1.3 to 1.14.
Originally Posted by EvoRecordSetter
you say you can finish in 4th gear now? you change to a 5 speed?
Unfortunately, though, since I found that the IX turbo tapers just the same and 4th dies out after 6400rpm, I may still end up shifting to 5th up here, albeit later down the track. On the 6spd, I was shifting to 5th before the 1000'!
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It was straightforward, but that's because I made sure to get all the little parts that are specific to the IX turbo that don't fit the VIII turbo: wga, compressor outlet pipe, and oil/coolant lines. The seller had his work done at AMS, and AMS sent me the whole turbo assembly in one piece, which made everything easy. The only curve ball was that I took the ported/coated 10.5 hotside off my VIII and put it on the IX.
It was straightforward, but that's because I made sure to get all the little parts that are specific to the IX turbo that don't fit the VIII turbo: wga, compressor outlet pipe, and oil/coolant lines. The seller had his work done at AMS, and AMS sent me the whole turbo assembly in one piece, which made everything easy. The only curve ball was that I took the ported/coated 10.5 hotside off my VIII and put it on the IX.
Yeah that 1 v-band clamp can be a real pain! =p
Good stuff Clay.
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What I showed is that you can get the same gains at elevation as at sea level. It's not about the raw numbers as much as it is the gains...
Very interesting stuff, thanks for posting it up. I'm looking even more forward to my IX turbo swap now. I'll have similar setup but without alky and on stock ic. So if Evo IX's consistently post ~30 more whp than VIII's, I wonder if we could assume from this test that the turbo comprises 20hp and MIVEC comes up with the extra 10hp (plus spool)...
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Very interesting stuff, thanks for posting it up. I'm looking even more forward to my IX turbo swap now. I'll have similar setup but without alky and on stock ic. So if Evo IX's consistently post ~30 more whp than VIII's, I wonder if we could assume from this test that the turbo comprises 20hp and MIVEC comes up with the extra 10hp (plus spool)...
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