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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 05:07 AM
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The path to BR BB 50Trim

Current mods are in my sig... I'm keeping the car as is for the rest of '07, but when '08 comes around I'm sure I'll want to play again.

I was thinking first:

Buschur Racing Mini Battery Kit
Buschur Racing Deluxe Front Mount Intercooler w/ Lower Pipe
Buschur Racing Upper Intercooler Pipe w/ Flange
Tial 50mm Stainless Blow Off Valve
Buschur Racing Mass Air Pipe w/ Filter


And then when I'm happy with that, move on to:

Buschur Racing GT Series 50 Trim (Ball Bearing) Turbo Kit
Helix 720cc Injectors
Custom Dynoflash Tune


My goal for the car is a strong, daily driven 2.0L on pump gas without meth/alky. I'll drag it once or twice at each stage just for the slip, but I have no intention of beating the hell out of the car. It's my daily driver right now, and after a 50Trim, I'd retire it to weekend warrior with lots of AutoX, RallyX, etc.

But anyways, my questions to you are... is any other prep required before making the move to 50Trim? I was under the impression that cams on a IX make less than 20whp... do I need head studs before going big turbo? Do these 50Trims run ok at 21-23psi?

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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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Also wanted to add... how likely is it that I can hit 450whp with the above mods?
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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I am also going the same route, however I can't decide on 20g-lt/50/3065 . . . either way I don't believe you'll hit 450whp without meth, E85 or higher than 93/94 octane gas.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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450 on a 20g-lt? on straight pump? I would and did go with a 50 trim. More room for a bit more hp. 20 g-lt on meth could produce those numbers on a 9 but just pump i though it runs short. Correct me if im wrong
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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im with you duby
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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I'm on a IX, so I'm hoping 450 is possible on the 50 Trim
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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your not going to make 450whp with a 50 trim with 21-23 psi
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by riceball777
your not going to make 450whp with a 50 trim with 21-23 psi
mmk. How 'bout 400
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Have you searched 50 trim dyno or 50 trim results? You will make between 380 and 440 or so on pump.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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I would think if you ran meth though you could or at least come close to 450whp on a IX
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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you can easily make over 400 on pump with a 50 trim. While i've seen as high as 450, it's very rare and i doubt you'll make that power without meth/racegas........

settle with 415whp on pump. thats very doable......
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Duby
I would think if you ran meth though you could or at least come close to 450whp on a IX

i totally agree considering i made 480whp with a 50 trim on an 8 with pump/meth.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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ok, so now that the power issue is settled... how about the other questions in the O.P.

Originally Posted by ShamelessCookie
But anyways, my questions to you are... is any other prep required before making the move to 50Trim? I was under the impression that cams on a IX make less than 20whp... do I need head studs before going big turbo? Do these 50Trims run ok at 21-23psi?
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ShamelessCookie
ok, so now that the power issue is settled... how about the other questions in the O.P.
LOL...this site is known to do that

Anyways.. The cams should be considered not because the HP it adds...but how it helps out the other mods you have. Upgraded cams have a longer duration then stockers, so it will actually help the 50trim make power across the powerband..not just peak.

Stock Head studs i have heard can take alot of abuse..its a matter of what power levels do you feel the head studs can survive. Of course also..being safe is always a good route too. IMO anything past 400 HP is a good time to change them...but thats being safe...people have pushed them past that with long term success. look up more on that if you like.

and yes you can run the BB 50 trim at 21-23psi all day long with a good tune of course..
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rez90
i totally agree considering i made 480whp with a 50 trim on an 8 with pump/meth.
I think you stalk me now, HAHA. j/k



Just put your car on some drugs and call it a day . . . 50trim + meth = 475-500 whp
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