HKS Turbo upgrade for EVO-> 3037S model?
Buschur's turbo kit will be available soon. His kit will make more power and will be priced cheaper than the HK$ kit.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hlight=buschur
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Originally posted by Zeus
So the arguement that there is not a US vendor with a released kit for the EVO is mute... It appears you can adapt a 3037s kit to fit the USDM EVO VIII, but not an absolute bolt on solution... So what are people arguing about
So the arguement that there is not a US vendor with a released kit for the EVO is mute... It appears you can adapt a 3037s kit to fit the USDM EVO VIII, but not an absolute bolt on solution... So what are people arguing about
Originally posted by blitz118
Buschur's turbo kit will be available soon. His kit will make more power and will be priced cheaper than the HK$ kit.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hlight=buschur
Buschur's turbo kit will be available soon. His kit will make more power and will be priced cheaper than the HK$ kit.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hlight=buschur
There are merrits to both paths
The HKS kit gets you 100% perfect welds, amazing hardwear and a very well designed p[roduct
Some other lower priced kits that will be comming out in the future will save you some $$$
I seriuosly doubt that any company can come close to the HKS kit performance and quality for any significant savings in $
The other kits may be very nice - but the HKS is a top of the line unit
I think in this case - you are getting what you pay for
The HKS kit gets you 100% perfect welds, amazing hardwear and a very well designed p[roduct
Some other lower priced kits that will be comming out in the future will save you some $$$
I seriuosly doubt that any company can come close to the HKS kit performance and quality for any significant savings in $
The other kits may be very nice - but the HKS is a top of the line unit
I think in this case - you are getting what you pay for
Originally posted by Alfriedesq
There are merrits to both paths
The HKS kit gets you 100% perfect welds, amazing hardwear and a very well designed p[roduct
Some other lower priced kits that will be comming out in the future will save you some $$$
I seriuosly doubt that any company can come close to the HKS kit performance and quality for any significant savings in $
The other kits may be very nice - but the HKS is a top of the line unit
I think in this case - you are getting what you pay for
There are merrits to both paths
The HKS kit gets you 100% perfect welds, amazing hardwear and a very well designed p[roduct
Some other lower priced kits that will be comming out in the future will save you some $$$
I seriuosly doubt that any company can come close to the HKS kit performance and quality for any significant savings in $
The other kits may be very nice - but the HKS is a top of the line unit
I think in this case - you are getting what you pay for
The fastest and quickest DSMs in the US are not running HKS turbo kits. I'll go a step further and say that it won't be long before the fastest and quickest USDM EVOs are not running them either. My only point in all this is that I agree that most of the big name JDM products sold to us are horribly overpriced. Quality is second to none, I agree. It's just that there will be other turbo kit options that will match the performance and reliability of the HKS kit much more reasonably. I don't see the US offerings being nearly as pretty though.
Originally posted by Zeus
...I'd compare notes with you Al, but I'll never have the cash flow to keep up
The fastest and quickest DSMs in the US are not running HKS turbo kits. I'll go a step further and say that it won't be long before the fastest and quickest USDM EVOs are not running them either. My only point in all this is that I agree that most of the big name JDM products sold to us are horribly overpriced. Quality is second to none, I agree. It's just that there will be other turbo kit options that will match the performance and reliability of the HKS kit much more reasonably. I don't see the US offerings being nearly as pretty though.
...I'd compare notes with you Al, but I'll never have the cash flow to keep up
The fastest and quickest DSMs in the US are not running HKS turbo kits. I'll go a step further and say that it won't be long before the fastest and quickest USDM EVOs are not running them either. My only point in all this is that I agree that most of the big name JDM products sold to us are horribly overpriced. Quality is second to none, I agree. It's just that there will be other turbo kit options that will match the performance and reliability of the HKS kit much more reasonably. I don't see the US offerings being nearly as pretty though.
There is no doubt that you can make a LOT of power with some of those other set ups . . . however - after having seen a lot of the DSM turbo set ups out there and seeing what they run like on the street - - it will be very hard to match the overall driveability, performance and quailty of the HKS set up
The HKS stuff in my opinion is way overpriced for what it is. I am from the old school DSM world and believe you can get a set up that will perform just as well as the HKS stuff at a much lower price. It's only matter of time.
We will be releasing our turbo kits here very soon. We have been building these kits for the DSM for a long while and have had great success with our manifolds, turbo, etc. We are going to have 3 simple stages. It's not going to be some big secret what's inside them, but just simple stuff that works.
Stage 1 T3/T4 bolt-on turbo kit (50 trim) 400-500hp
Stage 2 T3/t4 bolt-on turbo kit (60 trim) 430-530hp
Stage 3 T3/T4 bolt-on turbo kit (60-1) 450-600hp
These will include everything you need to bolt on to your car. The manifold is a custom eqaul length SS manfiold guaranteed not to crack. All turbos can be ordered with a ball bearing option. We have some pics of this on our site www.rnrracing.com
We will be releasing our turbo kits here very soon. We have been building these kits for the DSM for a long while and have had great success with our manifolds, turbo, etc. We are going to have 3 simple stages. It's not going to be some big secret what's inside them, but just simple stuff that works.
Stage 1 T3/T4 bolt-on turbo kit (50 trim) 400-500hp
Stage 2 T3/t4 bolt-on turbo kit (60 trim) 430-530hp
Stage 3 T3/T4 bolt-on turbo kit (60-1) 450-600hp
These will include everything you need to bolt on to your car. The manifold is a custom eqaul length SS manfiold guaranteed not to crack. All turbos can be ordered with a ball bearing option. We have some pics of this on our site www.rnrracing.com
Originally posted by RnR Racing
The HKS stuff in my opinion is way overpriced for what it is. I am from the old school DSM world and believe you can get a set up that will perform just as well as the HKS stuff at a much lower price. It's only matter of time.
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The HKS stuff in my opinion is way overpriced for what it is. I am from the old school DSM world and believe you can get a set up that will perform just as well as the HKS stuff at a much lower price. It's only matter of time.
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sure they make loads of power - but a lot of them look like Frakenstine's rejects
i have no complaints with my HKS set up what so ever
The only complaint i have it that HKS USA is staffed by a buntch of pompus, rude, know it all geek / punks - - other than that hKS is great
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Originally posted by Alfriedesq
Everyone has thier own opinion! After enjoying my HKS set up and seeing how well made and designed it is - - honestly - most of those old school dsm set ups look like piles of junk
sure they make loads of power - but a lot of them look like Frakenstine's rejects
Everyone has thier own opinion! After enjoying my HKS set up and seeing how well made and designed it is - - honestly - most of those old school dsm set ups look like piles of junk
sure they make loads of power - but a lot of them look like Frakenstine's rejects
Originally posted by rdrkt
Al as you said you are previously stated everyone is entitled to their opinion. I know you LOVE the HKS stuff I just think its overrated as others have said. Take a look at my setup and tell me if you think if its Frankensteinesque.
Al as you said you are previously stated everyone is entitled to their opinion. I know you LOVE the HKS stuff I just think its overrated as others have said. Take a look at my setup and tell me if you think if its Frankensteinesque.
but SOMEONE put your engine in backwards ! 
Turn it back around !
I think when the time comes (ie I'm really bored and have some coin to spend or my turbo is fried), I will go the 2835 route with supporting fuel/air mods (fuel pump, injectors, a/f controller, larger intercooler). Like someone said earlier, if you mod cheap, you mod twice. That's why I always try to buy the best stuff in the first place so I don't have to spend the money again. 
Originally posted by Chris in HB
I think when the time comes (ie I'm really bored and have some coin to spend or my turbo is fried), I will go the 2835 route with supporting fuel/air mods (fuel pump, injectors, a/f controller, larger intercooler). Like someone said earlier, if you mod cheap, you mod twice. That's why I always try to buy the best stuff in the first place so I don't have to spend the money again.
I think when the time comes (ie I'm really bored and have some coin to spend or my turbo is fried), I will go the 2835 route with supporting fuel/air mods (fuel pump, injectors, a/f controller, larger intercooler). Like someone said earlier, if you mod cheap, you mod twice. That's why I always try to buy the best stuff in the first place so I don't have to spend the money again.
Al - I hate to sound dumb, but what is the smaller back housing? I am assuming you are talking about the housing on the turbo itself where it mates to the manifold?
BTW, I hope you don't mind me stealing your line for my sig line...
BTW, I hope you don't mind me stealing your line for my sig line...
Chris - exactly right - there are several incarnations of the 3037S kit (5 versions as I recall), with different exhaust sides and the availability of internal or external wastegate
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Adam - how would I know which version to use? Is it based on current mods or a specific output requirement or ...???? This turbo game is all new to me (but I'm learning). Any tips from anyone would be great. I don't plan on upgrading soon unless I have some catastrophic turbo failure.