I was looking at the HKS Turbo's I saw on Z1 Performance 's site a listing for the HKS 2085 turbo or something, and HKS's white EVO 7 runs the 3037S.

I was wondering which turbo would give around 400-500 WHP and still be good for driving around town? and give good throttle response, boost response?

 

the 2085 is much more streetable than the 3037. If you want a race setup then get the 3037 but for and everyday monster the 2085 is highly recommended. I saw an evo today with the 2085 and they estimate it makes 380whp a least (dyno at RMR tomorrow). Both are EXTREMELY expensive. The 2085 is about 5800 bucks.

 

I'd love to see the dyno charts on them

 

me too !

 

Actually its the GT2835R model turbo....

http://www.z1auto.com/10.02/Mitsu/tu...835RTurbo.html

$2300 pricetag

I wonder how much power that thing can make?

hummm...the sound of GT2835R sounds like serious business...

 

Blue Evo 8, it looks like $2350 is for the turbo alone. The RMR evo had the $5800 manifold turbo kit which includes an external wastegate, HKS manifold, and the turbo.

 

Do those prices sound insane to anyone else?

 

I talked to Rhys Millen about it yesterday and he said that it does ineed sound insane but that's about right since turbo upgrades are not a common upgrade and they can only make about 4 at at time vs making 50 - 60 exhaust systems at a time using the same manpower. The manifold is $2000 alone from HKS. Rhys said he knows it sounds outrageous for a bunch of welded pipes but he said if they were to make the manifold themselves at RMR it would probably be priced around the same since not many people buy them and they can only make them in small batches. The opportunity cost to make 4 manifolds is about 50 cat back exhausts so they arent even going to try making the turbo upgrades or manifolds. They'll leave that to the bigger companies he said.

It might be cheaper just to upgrade the turbo and leave the stock manifold. The problem is finding a turbo made for the evo engine arrangement. DSM turbos are relativeley cheap but they dont fit since the engine is backwards from a DSM. Looks liek we'll have to wait or else pay the huge price tag.

 

The 1g and 2g eclipse turbo exhaust manifolds have the same bolt pattern as us i believe. I even turboed my 2001 eclipse with a drag turbo exhaust manifold meant for a 2g gst eclipse and that only cost me $500. Has anyone tried this, or has this topic already discussed?

 

i thought the same thing
look into greddy kits, whole kit goes for $3800., thats greddy TD06-20g Both kits are complete with manifold, turbo, wastegate, downpipe, intake pipe and an air filter!
TD06-20g flows 650cfm and will give up to 450bhp on a 2 litre evo engine

 

Yeah I know $2300 for the turbo alone...

HKS stuff is sure mad expensive

 

In Japan...the kits start at 480,000 JPY. That means the RMR is chargint over 1000 to import them...what a joke.

That is not ridiculious priced from Kansai though. You get an outstanding turbo manifold with a Garrett GT flang, and an HKS 40MM external wastegate.

From RMR, it is a ripoff though.

Andy

 

Isn't the JIC EVO manifold only $800...as opposed to a $2000 HKS manifold? I bought a small 16G for my Eclipse in a group buy for only $550. So what if the turbo spins backwards from a normal turbo, how does that justify a $2800 price tag? Perhaps as the Lancer grows in populatiry, EVO owners' options will increase.

 

hks is too expensive, actually hks uses regular garrett turbos,
theres no reason why they should be so expensive. But I think those are ball bearing turbos. Still Id stick with GReddy turbo kit, Im saving money for one.