Does anyone know if this is the same as the FP evo green?

http://www.turbochargers.com/store/p...roducts_id=181


There is also another one that is 1699, but its tme

http://www.turbochargers.com/store/p...products_id=63

 

Of course not. That's the old 6-blade piece of crap that's been there for a while. FP made the EvoGreen with Buschur; FP = Forced Performance; FP is a direct competitor of TurboChargers.com.

 

And strangely enough, you are in the burshur camp, so your opinion is not objective on this manner

In terms of power, two local cars with similar mods put out similar numbers, one with the FPgreen, one with the "piece of crap" 6-blade version, both held 24psi at redline.

I think if you have an evo-9...its perhaps a worthwhile investment considering you can easily sell your stocker for $500 or so. So $400 to hold 5psi more at redline

 

Buschur racing used to sell the 20G-6 until the whole tc.com not being able to keep up with demand. There is no bias in that opinion that Warrtalon made. Facts on the other hand?

 

I would not put a turbo on my car that TurboChargers.com built. I have bought many turbos from Forced Performance in the past and I was very happy every time.

 

No bias? Warrlaton is in the buschur camp. Yes they used to sell the 20g-6, that relationship went sour with TC.com, and now they are paired with FP. So I don't see how you can say there is no bias there.

I'm sure you are on NCE, so you know which facts im referring to. I agree, the FPgreen is in fact a better turbo. Is it better enough to justify nearly twice the cost? That tidbit is highly debatable .

 

Not sure what you're talking about, UCB. It's common knowledge that the 6-blades are crap. I don't care if two cars in your area made similar power, because gurus not affiliated with BR have shown how poor the 20g-6 is in no uncertain terms. Also, the guy asked if that was the EvoGreen, and I said that it was not. The reason it's only $900 is because it's such a weak turbo. The stock IX is better than the 20g-6. Making references about how much a turbo claims to hold to redline is not relevant. There's a lot more to making power than "holding XX psi to redline." The 20g-6 has to push more boost to make similar power as more efficient stock-styled turbos.

Saying that the 20g-6 is a WORTHWHILE investment for someone with a IX is a farce. That's terrible advice that I hope _NO ONE_ follows. That would be awful...

 

I agree with Warrtalon, All 6 blade 20G's suck. I had one on my car and I only put down 359whp at 27psi, and it surged really bad. Now I have a Stock IX turbo and with the but dyno at 25psi my car pulls harder and faster. I am not in the Buschur camp "wish I was" so you can not say I am bias. The 6 blade is sh*t.

 

Not to mention, said NorCal 20g-9-6 turbo was tuned @ an AFR of 12.2 up top. There is still debate whether or not that is a good idea At least with some

 

Damn iam running piece of crap 6 blade 20g, guess what its working ! I had that turbo on the car for about 3-4 months went thru the winter too now iam on alky pushing 28psi all day. The car puts great amount of power. IT sucks that i went to the track yesterday and my stock clutch started to die, 45k on original clutch. ones i shifted to second and third gear, otherwise i would post some numbers.



I will keep that turbo till it blows if it happens,
Ill get FP green. no biggie.

 

How much are you putting down with the 6 blade?

 

So does mine, so does my great aunt's Buick Roadmaster (or at least she thinks so). A "great amount of power" to one person is 'like it's running on only 3 cylinders' to someone else. Only a dyno or trap speeds define 'great amount of power' here.

My personal experience with the 'piece of crap' 6-blade 20G proved it to be pretty much that (well ok, it makes a kool door stop). An EVO9 16G TME is a better option.

I issued a gentleman's challenge many months ago that still stands - demonstrate something a 6-blade 20G has done that hasn't been done with a 16G + 10.5cm2 hotside. I've heard nothing but chirping crickets.

And FWIW, I'm sponsored only by Ted B.

 

the reason i was wondering about it is because that turbo is cheap and I could sell my stocker,

The fp green is a little more and have to send in my core.

 

Hey Ted, maybe you can give your 2¢ here:

http://www.norcalevo.net/index.php?o...&topic=18030.0

 

I cannot say how much is now, before when i dynod the car on 100 octane, safc2 it was 386 hp and 376tq.

now iam on meth + flash...




Well, I will just unsubscribe from this thread, think whatever you guys want.