every one is badmouthing the 35r on pump gas and 2.0. I thought that u could get close to 450 on a dynojet. Can someone please explain this to me. I was interested in this turbo.

 

nothings wrong with it....

there are other turbo's that will make the same power on pump and spool a little faster...

The 35r is meant for higher boost and big power that the quicker spooling turbo's can't achieve.

If you plan on running race gas at the track then more power to ya or if you plan on doing an alky kit eventually.

If you have no plans of either of those i'd go with a 30r or 50trim. youll make about the same power and spool a little quicker.

 

is the 35r harsher on the internals than the 50 trim because if not i will just go with the 35r and keep it untill i decide to go stroker or meth.

 

its harsher when you're making 550+

if anything, im not 100% sure, a 50trim making 500whp probably will hurt the car more than a 35r because of the higher boost and the torque hitting all at once

 

It's all about the curve. Size a turbo for what you need If the goal is 450whp why go with a 35R? Go do some research on pump gas 35R 1/4 mile times at 21-23psi you have pump gas 20GLT's, 50 trims, 3076's etc running just as fast with a much more fun hp/tq curve. The 20GLT is a much cheaper to boot.

The 35R is for people that dont' want to stop at 450-500whp they want 600whp+ just remember to size the turbo for what you need why add lag if you don't need too?

 

^^^ +1

Unless you have big plans to run 9's in the 1/4 mile, buy the smallest turbo you are able to, that will be able to trap whatever speed your goal is, with a conservative tune and with the turbo operating within its efficiency range...

Otherwise you may be stuck with a "really fast car" that is NO FUN to drive...

 

Keep in mind fellas that not everyone is a drag racer. 1/4 mile times are not the "be-all end-all" of performance. The 35R is great for pump if you are running an alcohol kit with it. Otherwise as stated you can achieve the same power with ealier spool on pump gas with a smaller turbo.

 

I think a lot of people feel the 35r is useless on pump because you can't really push it to its efficiency range with 91/93. Plus, it's not really a "fun" turbo to drive on the street with the 2.0 because of the peaky powerband.

 

I love my 35r even on pump, little lag but then a big rush of power. If your goal though is 450whp on just 91/93 get a turbo with less lag but if you wanna run some race gas or meth get the 35r. Its a different animal running 26+psi compared to 21 with this turbo. good luck!

 

i wonder how many people in this thread have actually driven a 35r evo on pump before???
obviously 2sloevo has, but who else???

its really not that bad...22psi by 4200rpm.


Some people want 450whp on pump, but they want like 550-600 on race gas.
sure a 30r can give you the same or close numbers on pump with a quicker spool, but they don't give you the peak power when you need it.

Just because someone has a large turbo, doesnt mean they HAVE to have methonal or alky or race gas all the time, you dont HAVE to beat on the car.

a 35r on pump isnt bad imo, its not even a laggy turbo...i say you should get it

 

Worst comes to worst, just put 5 gallons of 91/93 and 5 gallons of 100 octane. Makes the car a different animal, but yes I will be running race gas @ the track, so I decided to get teh 35.

 

Nothing Only That I Don't Have One...

 

I have a 35R and my car has seen nothing but 93 octane the whole time. Do I think its worth it? Absolutely. Do I wish I had a smaller turbo to make the same power? No. A 50 trim is old school, I'd rather have the BB and aero of the GT. The 3076 does not spool up that much quicker, neither does a 3065. The 20GLT, well, thats an AEM turbo only if you actually want to make some appreciable power.

I came from Audis and small *** turbos and while the 35R is certainly laggier than stock, its FAR from the dog that people on here who have no idea make it out to be. I daily drive mine every single day and have absolutely no issues in stop and go traffic. I don't have to downshift on the highway either. Mine seems to spool up faster than average. In 3rd gear, I hit full boost around 4500, lower than that in the higher gears (5th is right at 4k, but even with the surge ported housing its on the verge of surge).

If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't change a thing!

 

Hmm...my 50 trim is BB. Don't have a clue what you mean by "aero". Anyways, if you think that 42-4500 isn't laggy go on with ya bad self. Personally I like having full spool at 3700 because anytime I run up against an OEM IX I hate being left off the line only to play catch up.

I'm not bad mouthing the 35R at all. It's a beast if you wish to sacrifice low end for top punch. But there are different strokes for everyone. I prefer having a nice fat torque curve verses a peaky beast that doesn't wake up till halfway to redline.

 

I know you can get a dual BB 50 trim, I was just talking about the GT being built from the ground up with that in mind. As far as the "aero" I was talking about the vastly superior aerodynamics of the wheels. Finally, peaky doesn't not describe any turbo setup that reaches full boil halfway to redline.

If you like to run from a stop, you definitely need a good 2 step to come off hard. In my case, I seem to always run into the people I end up running on the interstate and the 35 turns the Evo into an AWD hwy stormer