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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Just buy some really high quality thick hose to use, that should help prevent it from leaking in the future.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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Sweet. Thanks WOT. I will order some and check it out.

My stock lines were being used for what they were intended for when they failed. I used a stock line to connect the two outlets and it failed within months. I'm looking for a real solution not another bandaid thanks.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonestock!






If you only had a clue.

You're right, I don't have a clue. But let me leave you with a little something to think about.

1) These are turbo cars, not NA. Our charge temps can be significantly higher, even with FMICs. On a typical day lately, I see up to 130 degrees post IC on a full drag run. The coolant temp is 176 degrees, for a relatively minor 46 degree difference. The rate at which an object changes temperature varies directly with the difference between the temperature of that object and that of it's surroundings. Small temp differential equals small temp transfer rate.

2) Consider how a typical heat exchanger is built. Radiator, Intercooler, air conditioner, refridgerator, etc. Then consider how a throttle body is built. I'm sure you see where this is going, right? It is not a good heat exchanger. There is very little surface area compared to it's cross section, and the air moves through it too quickly.

3) Combine 1 and 2 and you'll come to the conclusion that the heat transfer from the coolant in the throttle body to the charge air is negligible, as I stated in my previous post. I'm not sure what is so difficult to understand about this.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Here's a pic of my TB coolant hose after it blew. Luckily I was a about 5 houses away from my driveway.



The stock hoses are weak, and don't last, as several here have first hand experience with. Good reason to replace them or do the bypass mod. I used 3/8's fuel line as others have. A steel braided -6 fuel line should work also. You can put some worm gear clamps on the braided line, and the braid should keep the clamp from eating into the rubber part of the hose.

As far as capping goes, it won't create more pressure to "blow" the cap, the system will only run as much pressure as the radiator cap will allow, capping the nipples will only force the coolant down different pathways, but it won't raise the pressure of the overall system at the capped nipples by any appreciable amount.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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That's exactly how my stock line failed. Seems like the premolded hoses always split on one of the bends. Another reason to go with a regular section of stright line.

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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 06:12 AM
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i did this last week....take one of the hoses that used to connect to the TB and put it on the other connector that comes out of the head...loop it.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 06:30 AM
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keep an eye on it because I did the same and it cut the hose and started leaking. I'm broke right now but I plan to order some heavy duty hose on Friday.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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Do you guys think something like this would work:

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

They also have 5/16

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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i would just go by autozone and buy some fuel line. they have spools of different sizes and sell it by the foot. it's very strong and reinforced(not steel braided though). it's not that much and you can get it local for a good price. put some new worm clamps on and i don't think you'd have a problem.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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intresting...a learning exp
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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I went the Advanced and picked up some of the heavy duty 3/8 fuel line. Instead of worm clamps I bought the fuel line clamps that are kinda funky but they shouldn't tear the line.

Here is a pic of a clamp like the ones I'm talking about... It's model # 52F16v


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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dubbleugly01
Here's a pic of my TB coolant hose after it blew. Luckily I was a about 5 houses away from my driveway.



The stock hoses are weak, and don't last, as several here have first hand experience with. Good reason to replace them or do the bypass mod. I used 3/8's fuel line as others have. A steel braided -6 fuel line should work also. You can put some worm gear clamps on the braided line, and the braid should keep the clamp from eating into the rubber part of the hose.

As far as capping goes, it won't create more pressure to "blow" the cap, the system will only run as much pressure as the radiator cap will allow, capping the nipples will only force the coolant down different pathways, but it won't raise the pressure of the overall system at the capped nipples by any appreciable amount.
I got one of those too, but it happened at 10pm and 10 miles from home
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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I just run a bypass as well. DONT cap off the lines, due to the pressure it will cause. I use a brass connector that was pictured above, have been running it for over a year now and it's my track car so water temps get real high. No problems!
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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oh lord..lol the cap ripped because you applied too much pressure in tightning them...it happened to me when i first did it..i just made sure i didnt tighten them too much..havent had a problem since..drove to ny from florida...and then from ny to va....just make sure you have an extra set and some coolant in case it decides to take a **** on you
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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Yeah I'd put money the clamp cut it and or the coolant weakened the rubber over time.

This is the new setup lol.

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