Evo 8 ACT Clutch Noise
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I am having similar problem but upon acceleration. From Idle to acceleration (In 1st) I get a wierd vibration from when the clutch engages to when I let off the clutch. The noise can be described as a dragging or "Coffee Grinder" noise. I can feel it on both clutch pedal and gas pedal. The noise seems to come from the Front driver side area (or at least that it seems to be coming from when driving).
This does not occur on a regular basis...but I notice it in 1st, 2nd, and sometimes 3rd...sort of random.
I have ACT HDSS Clutch, Streetlite Flywheel, and basic performance mods (TBE, MBC, FP, and Flash).
Is this normal or something I need to be concerned about.
This does not occur on a regular basis...but I notice it in 1st, 2nd, and sometimes 3rd...sort of random.
I have ACT HDSS Clutch, Streetlite Flywheel, and basic performance mods (TBE, MBC, FP, and Flash).
Is this normal or something I need to be concerned about.
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Maybe they will find something, but if they don't you should be fine. Mine has been making the exact same noises you describe for 22k miles. It's normal. Enjoy your Evo when you get it back. Oh, and I used mine for my PC business as well, but quickly learned to buy us a cheap, reliable business car. Not much fun putting those kind of miles on the Evo, they could be used much better..
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My ACT with Pro Street light weight flywheel makes the same coffee grinder (or as I call it, marbles in a can sound) on decel in 4th gear every since install. Mine does it when I decel after downshifting to 4th and letting off the gas pedal. If you apply gas it stops until you let off again. It is very annoying, but I love the clutch. I've had mine in for 20,000 plus miles now. Even though my clutch has been taken care of and not been beaten to death, the noise is still annoying and makes me worry. I have never had the "High RPM Lockout" issue, but this is still a common occurance as it seems. I have searched for a while and seen no complaints on the forum until know.
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Update.
I got the Evo back after having the tranny serviced. The dealership found a bad input shaft and a bad 5th gear, which was replaced along with a few bearings and seals. There was a service bulletin issued in regards to 5th gear and the input shaft, but I didn't say anything about that. ;-)
The coffee grinder noise is still there tho. At this point, from everyone's feedback, I guess it's not going to hurt anything. I wish there had been some type of warning or disclaimer that ACT could have supplied with the clutch kit that would let a consumer know that the clutch and flywheel may make unusual noises. It would have saved me a lot of headache and worry.
Since this is my first time putting an aftermarket clutch and flywheel in a car, I guess I'll just chalk it up to experience.
-Brian
I got the Evo back after having the tranny serviced. The dealership found a bad input shaft and a bad 5th gear, which was replaced along with a few bearings and seals. There was a service bulletin issued in regards to 5th gear and the input shaft, but I didn't say anything about that. ;-)
The coffee grinder noise is still there tho. At this point, from everyone's feedback, I guess it's not going to hurt anything. I wish there had been some type of warning or disclaimer that ACT could have supplied with the clutch kit that would let a consumer know that the clutch and flywheel may make unusual noises. It would have saved me a lot of headache and worry.
Since this is my first time putting an aftermarket clutch and flywheel in a car, I guess I'll just chalk it up to experience.
-Brian
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I have the ACT HD w/ prolite and I have the excat same noise. I also get 2nd gear lock out when under hard accel. I have replaced the throw out bearing 3 times, and rechecked the torque on all the bolts and it is still there. I am just learning to deal with it.
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Update.
I got the Evo back after having the tranny serviced. The dealership found a bad input shaft and a bad 5th gear, which was replaced along with a few bearings and seals. There was a service bulletin issued in regards to 5th gear and the input shaft, but I didn't say anything about that. ;-)
The coffee grinder noise is still there tho. At this point, from everyone's feedback, I guess it's not going to hurt anything. I wish there had been some type of warning or disclaimer that ACT could have supplied with the clutch kit that would let a consumer know that the clutch and flywheel may make unusual noises. It would have saved me a lot of headache and worry.
Since this is my first time putting an aftermarket clutch and flywheel in a car, I guess I'll just chalk it up to experience.
-Brian
I got the Evo back after having the tranny serviced. The dealership found a bad input shaft and a bad 5th gear, which was replaced along with a few bearings and seals. There was a service bulletin issued in regards to 5th gear and the input shaft, but I didn't say anything about that. ;-)
The coffee grinder noise is still there tho. At this point, from everyone's feedback, I guess it's not going to hurt anything. I wish there had been some type of warning or disclaimer that ACT could have supplied with the clutch kit that would let a consumer know that the clutch and flywheel may make unusual noises. It would have saved me a lot of headache and worry.
Since this is my first time putting an aftermarket clutch and flywheel in a car, I guess I'll just chalk it up to experience.
-Brian
So iam wondering if its the flywheel's fault more than the clutch (not enuf mass/noise dampering?) .
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I admire your positive attitude but I have to speak up and say that properly working drivetrain shouldn't sound like a coffee grinder.
It may not even be the clutch. Mitsu techs are notorious for half arsed work especially on EVOs. Also keep in mind the car is used with an unknown history.
I haven't been the biggest fan of ACT due to a different issue on a different car but serveral of my EVO buds have gone with the ACT clutch and flywheel and all of them have had great success. No engagement, noise, or performance problems at all. I'm half temped to give ACT a second try myself.
If it were my car.... I would find the source of the noise and correct it before worse things happen.
It may not even be the clutch. Mitsu techs are notorious for half arsed work especially on EVOs. Also keep in mind the car is used with an unknown history.
I haven't been the biggest fan of ACT due to a different issue on a different car but serveral of my EVO buds have gone with the ACT clutch and flywheel and all of them have had great success. No engagement, noise, or performance problems at all. I'm half temped to give ACT a second try myself.
If it were my car.... I would find the source of the noise and correct it before worse things happen.
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it's probably the lightened fly wheel that is exacerbating the noise, since i have the same clutch with the stock flywheel and no problems. . .that's the problem with those light flywheels. . .accentuates most clutch chatter. . .
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The bottom line is that the torsional vibrations from the engine have an increased tendancy to make the gears growl as:
1. The performance goes up - higher boost, timing, cams, etc
2. The rotating mass goes down - lighter flywheel, pulleys, engine internals, etc
3. The disc dampening springs are too strong, or possibly too weak depending on the noise.
4. The dampening of the stock front dampener is changed.
Disclaimer: Once again, I don't have the car here to listen to so certain assumptions are made as to what the "coffee grinder" sound is like and how loud the noise may be.
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If you have had it for over a year, the disc center is an Exedy design. Unfortunately Exedy won't sell their OE discs to the aftermarket because I like the center section of the earlier OE EVO discs. We changed to our own parts about 6 months ago to use stiffer springs and stronger components for more durability/longevity under high power. Honestly I am not sure if the noise is better or worse now, but it is more bulletproof than before. Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to dog the Exedy discs. They have proven to be very reliable and we sold them for years.
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I just had an ACT street clutch with prolite flywheel placed in my Evo 8. The clutch engagement is much improved over stock, with a bit firmer clutch pedal. My only issue is the "coffee grinder" sound heard when the car is decelerating in gear. Annoying, but a fair trade I guess.