as the title says has anybody dyno'd a 20glt with stock cams and stock fmic?
i ask cause ive searched and found out that the fmic is goodd up to 450whp.
i had cams but hated idle and a noise they made while warming up the car i went back to stock cams.
right know iam seriously thinking on buying the 20glt with a set of injectors from bushur racing so iam concern about stock cams and stock fmic.
thanks

 

No, there are no dynos because that would be retarded. The stock FMIC sucks and even with the stock turbo you will get benefits.

The 20G-LT is not mean to make super power on pump gas on stock cams and stock FMIC. It is for when youre stock turbo is maxxed out. If you dont like the idle of cams all you have to do is get less aggressive ones and turn the idle up. I have HKS 272s and I can hardly tell I have cams.

If you buy the 20G-LT, a full bolt on cammed stock turbo EVO will smoke you, and they will have spent much less money.

 

If you want a smooth cam get the new GSC S1's. I EVO i have seen them in runs like stock and the valvetrain has no noise either.

 

It be very pointless to not camm a evo with a 20G lol.

GSC S1 here and loving it.

 

ok what about the fmic searching in here they say its good up to 450whp?
cams on my car only gave me 13whp and to some other people in this forum havent gained anything?
a 20g evo makes 360whp on 91oct pump gas a full bolt on stock turbo evo makes 36-370whp on racegas or alky so i dont see how a 20g would get smoked from stock turbo evo?
anyone else care to shime in?

 

Dude listen, youre going into threads on here, and listening to random people who just spout out info which is completely false and youre taking it all as facts.

Stock FMIC "is good for" whatever you want it to be. Just try and find all the fastest stock turbo EVOs.. they arent running stock FMICs. It is a great stock FMIC and should not be changed out until all other modifications are, like cams, licp, tbe, etc. Cams on an EVO will give you 20-30whp depending on application. If you gained 13whp (dont know where you got that from), then something is wrong.

There is a reason cams are almost a mandatory mod on the 03-05 EVOs. They are a HUGE power gain and they do not cost much.

Stock turbo EVOs with full bolt-ons on straight pump gas will do 355-360whp. I put down 346awhp with just a TBE, cams, LICP and a tune.

It sounds like you had some sort of bad experience with cams being that you said you hated the idle and only made 13whp. You will not find anyone else on this entire forum to say that. Reality is, they add gobs of power even on the stock turbo and power where we need it, in the top end. Also, they are inexpensive. As for the sound, 99% of people love it. I dont get how you dont like the sound of cams at idle but whatever. If the idle is turned up, you barely notice them.

Maybe you can enlighten us what cams you had, who tuned your car and maybe some dyno/track numbers.

 

ok put it this way what kind of whp does the 20g give to an evo which only has a tbe?

 

Ill put it this way, less than what a pair of cams will, and it will cost 3x as much.

 

Alright, how about the green on a IX with stock cams, but all other supporting mods including larger FMIC added? Would that be a problem? Also what size of injectors would I need? Are 780's to big?

 

I dont think the gains would be worth spending $1700 for the turbo upgrade...you need to have all the bolt ons to get the most out of it...

 

Putting the green on an IX with stock cams wouldnt be so bad as long as you have all the other bolt ons including FMIC. the IX's have a more aggressive intake cam to start and they have MIVEC. 780s are more than enough.

 

ok leaving just the stock cams i would need to buy the 20g turbo the fmic and the injectors.
i already have the licp,fuelpump,02housing and tbe with test pipe.
would this be good to do? or still i need those cams in there?

 

You need the cams to make the gains worthwhile.

I highly reccomend GSC or the HKS 272s.

 

i have the 264/272 hks cams but had an annoying tap sound during warmup i hated that.
will have to try without cams if it doesnt work ill buy the gsc maybe they dont make that noise during warmp

 

Thats not the cams, its the lifters. Sometimes lifters go bad after a cam install, mine did actually. I have the Jackson Auto Machine non-tick lifters now.