Want more pump gas numbers-->check this thread out.
I opened this thread looking for some pump gas numbers. Are we calling E85 pump gas now? Its common knowledge that switching from race gas to alky (meth or e98) nets about 10% gains in HP over c16. E85 is 85% ethanol. Not pump gas by a long shot if you ask me. building a pump gas car means you can drive anywhere across the country and not have to worry about where you are going to get gas. The is only one e85 pump in florida and its a 5 hour drive from tampa.
regaurdless of what fuel you are using that is the prettiest dyno graph you have ever posted. and I have seen them all. I thought your dyno just made turbos look laggy but now I see I was wrong about that. that is the fastest spooling 67r I have ever seen. TWO BIG THUMBS WAY UP for the build on this one.
regaurdless of what fuel you are using that is the prettiest dyno graph you have ever posted. and I have seen them all. I thought your dyno just made turbos look laggy but now I see I was wrong about that. that is the fastest spooling 67r I have ever seen. TWO BIG THUMBS WAY UP for the build on this one.
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no its not a good point. e85 performs more like a race fuel than does 93 or 94 octane. e85 is not a low octane fuel, and the locations are still very scarse to most around the country. sarasota has 112 octane at several gas stations to to keep all the local boaters happy. only a 1 hr drive from here. can we we call that pump gas too?
I would have to say that if Car Manufacturers are designing and engineering vehicles to run off it then I would have say it is a pump fuel. 112 that are at Sunoco pumps that are still pumps will not allow Customers to pump it into your tanks. It must put into a gas can. Due to the lead whitch Im sure you know.
I can't wait for E85 to become available in my area
One of the #1 issues I have with my government is the way the big oil companies are allowed to bend us all over and screw up
E85 is amazing stuff for a whole lot of reasons and I think its a crime that I am living in perhaps the largest metorpolitan area in the United States and E85 is not available for sale privately anywhere near my area
These are the E 85 stations in my area - you can see that they are all private for governement or "proposed"
DSNY Manhattan - 12 301 W 215th Street New York NY 10034 Private - government only
24 1080 Vogelbilt Corporation 631-539-9647 1200 Wellwood Avenue West Babylon NY 11704 PLANNED - not yet accessible
25 26 DSNY Queens - 7 120-15 31st Avenue College Point NY 11354 Private - government only
26 29 DSNY Bronx - 6A 800 E 176th Street New York NY 10460 Private - government only
29 1122 American Energy 203-775-6624 3 Mountain View Terrace Danbury CT 06810 PLANNED - not yet accessible
30 27 DSNY Queens - 5A 58-02 48th Street Masapeth NY 11378 Private - government only
40 25 DSNY Brooklyn - 11 1824 Shore Parkway Brooklyn NY 12214 Private - government only
47 30 DSNY Staten Island - 2 2500 Richmond Avenue Staten Island NY 10314 Private - government only
One of the #1 issues I have with my government is the way the big oil companies are allowed to bend us all over and screw up
E85 is amazing stuff for a whole lot of reasons and I think its a crime that I am living in perhaps the largest metorpolitan area in the United States and E85 is not available for sale privately anywhere near my area
These are the E 85 stations in my area - you can see that they are all private for governement or "proposed"
DSNY Manhattan - 12 301 W 215th Street New York NY 10034 Private - government only
24 1080 Vogelbilt Corporation 631-539-9647 1200 Wellwood Avenue West Babylon NY 11704 PLANNED - not yet accessible
25 26 DSNY Queens - 7 120-15 31st Avenue College Point NY 11354 Private - government only
26 29 DSNY Bronx - 6A 800 E 176th Street New York NY 10460 Private - government only
29 1122 American Energy 203-775-6624 3 Mountain View Terrace Danbury CT 06810 PLANNED - not yet accessible
30 27 DSNY Queens - 5A 58-02 48th Street Masapeth NY 11378 Private - government only
40 25 DSNY Brooklyn - 11 1824 Shore Parkway Brooklyn NY 12214 Private - government only
47 30 DSNY Staten Island - 2 2500 Richmond Avenue Staten Island NY 10314 Private - government only
The only good points made in any of my threads are the ones you make 94awd.................
E85 is widely used, used in new production vehicles, burns clean, less harmful to the environment than gasoline, contains no lead.
Is it what "we" consider "pump gas"? No. We have it at two local gas stations less than 10 miles from here.
Leaded race gas is not pump fuel. Alky injection is not pump fuel.
I think E85 is the absolute best choice and as time goes on it is going to be more and more common. I can't wait to get my permit so I can start running my still and making my own.
E85 is widely used, used in new production vehicles, burns clean, less harmful to the environment than gasoline, contains no lead.
Is it what "we" consider "pump gas"? No. We have it at two local gas stations less than 10 miles from here.
Leaded race gas is not pump fuel. Alky injection is not pump fuel.
I think E85 is the absolute best choice and as time goes on it is going to be more and more common. I can't wait to get my permit so I can start running my still and making my own.
The only good points made in any of my threads are the ones you make 94awd.................
E85 is widely used, used in new production vehicles, burns clean, less harmful to the environment than gasoline, contains no lead.
Is it what "we" consider "pump gas"? No. We have it at two local gas stations less than 10 miles from here.
Leaded race gas is not pump fuel. Alky injection is not pump fuel.
I think E85 is the absolute best choice and as time goes on it is going to be more and more common. I can't wait to get my permit so I can start running my still and making my own.
E85 is widely used, used in new production vehicles, burns clean, less harmful to the environment than gasoline, contains no lead.
Is it what "we" consider "pump gas"? No. We have it at two local gas stations less than 10 miles from here.
Leaded race gas is not pump fuel. Alky injection is not pump fuel.
I think E85 is the absolute best choice and as time goes on it is going to be more and more common. I can't wait to get my permit so I can start running my still and making my own.
Great stuff indeed
Al
An indicated 12.0:1 on your AFR meter when running E85 means you are actually running 7.98:1, or 0.816 lambda. Keep in mind that an 'AFR' gauge only reads free oxygen content, nothing more. The scaling on the gauge doesn't work unless one is using 100% gasoline.
FYI
It isn't there because presently, it is available mostly in states where cornfields and ethanol plants are located (midwest). There isn't enough of it yet to make its way around the country in abundance.
Well I see this the title of this thread as DUMB. It should have been titled "more e85 results" Plain and simple 93octane and e85 are completely different fuels. You started a thread about "pump gas " as a result of peoples doubts about safely making big power on 93 octane. The results of this car tuned on e85 has NOTHING to do with making power on 93 octane.
So will you be entering this car in the "pump gas drags" with this tune? I THINK YOU SHOULD. let us know how you do.
So will you be entering this car in the "pump gas drags" with this tune? I THINK YOU SHOULD. let us know how you do.
Nowhere in NJ, I brought back 15 gallons from school (clemson, sc) and am going to be getting tuned shortly. I'm trying to arrange something with ivey this weekend, I will let you know!
Also if I find somewhere close that sells it ill share!
Scorke
"Pump gas" or "pump fuel" carries the default connotation of 93-94 octane gasoline.
E85 should be referred to simply as "E85", regardless if it comes from a pump or a dixie cup.
Anyone who deliberately attempts to mislead forum members by obfuscating the two is lower than manure, and deserves to have their account suspended.
E85 should be referred to simply as "E85", regardless if it comes from a pump or a dixie cup.
Anyone who deliberately attempts to mislead forum members by obfuscating the two is lower than manure, and deserves to have their account suspended.
Anyone interested in locating the closest source of E85 can do that simply by visiting this webpage:
http://www.e85refueling.com/
http://www.e85refueling.com/