Save his money and go with the 300 dollar HKS?? Why not get the 80 dollar buschur one..

 

We don't have Buschur here..so I wasn't gonna recommend something I have never used or saw

 

Oh you're from japan....well the buschur does a nice job as does the HKS...cone filters just didnt work out for me tho....

 

Really? Then why does the car make more power when the temperature is cold out? The temperature from the compressor outlet will ALWAYS be x amount of degrees hotter than inlet temperature. So which do YOU think is going to be more beneficial? Starting w/ a lower temperature (ie. CAI) or starting w/ a higher temperature (ie.open element in engine bay) ?

 

You are correct about that but at the same time, cold outside temp greatly benefits the intercooler as well, so colder outside temps would benefit no matter what side of the argument you believe.

 

The car makes more power when its cold out because the nice big FMIC on our cars gets hit with much colder air, therefor making the actual intake charge colder, (also the purpose of our intercooler spray switch) not because the air going into the intake box is colder. After the air comes in whatever intake you have, it hits the turbo, which is run off the exhaust, exhaust temp does not varry because its a few degrees colder out, at least right at the manifold. I'm just stating my opinion here, don't get all worked up cause you think im ripping on CAI. CAI is a great idea, i just don't think it does what people think for turboed cars. It does work well with supercharged and NA cars though. Just remember this is just my opinion. I still think the carbon monster box is sweet as hell. Anything in an evo has to be sweet, cause its in an evo

Jeff

 

Here is the ARC air filter box. We offer it for $285.00. The Buschur kit you mentioned looks like just a Apexi cone filter. Any intake pipe come with it?? The HKS kit has a larger intake pipe which increases and smooths air flow so that is why it is more expensive.

 

No one's getting worked up here, it's all good. But, your theory about the exhaust heat as the cause for the rise in compressor outlet temperature is FLAT wrong. How long do you think the air molecules spend in the compressor housing? Long enough for it to be heated by thermal conduction? The reason the outlet temps are higher is becaused the air is now compressed, not because it just went through an exhaust-heated housing. The air doesn't even spend 1 second going through the housing.

As far as the colder air hitting the I/C, yes this does help. But that's not the misconception I'm trying to clear up. There's way too many guys/gals who don't really know the basics of turbocharging. A good book on the basics of turbocharging is Corky Bell's Maximum Boost. It addresses just exactly how a turbo charger works, ideas for intercooling, why using too big of intake piping is not beneficial, etc. This should be mandatory reading for all turbo owners out there.

 

There is support for both sides of this argument. I do realize that the air being compressed almost 19 psi is the main reason for heat, BUT you can not sit there and tell me that conduction of heat from the amazingly hot exhaust gases is FLAT OUT not possible. Go turn on your oven, let it heat up, and run your hand through it as fast as possible. I can 100% understand where you are coming from, and think its a good idea. I just don't see how you can tell me im totally wrong. We are getting off topic and this, its supposed to be a discussion about the arc box so I will try to get back to that.


The Arc box looks awesome, I'd go the Arc box before the monster carbon, or the hks carbon intakes. Just becasue the ARC box actually replaces the entire box and is not just a big carbon air scoop/stock airbox cover. Also it has been said already that they are valued highly in japan, I think for this type of intake the arc is the way to go.

Jeff

 

285 for the ARC kit? is it an authentic kit? and u live in honalulu, how much shipping to washington state 98037

 

Of all the modifications that people make to their cars, these intake type thingies appear to be the most controversial ones. In the WRX and possibly in the EVO, there is a body of evidence that points to diveability problems and /or negligible power gains from these intakes.
While the majority of exhausts seem to provide power gains, and the MBCs, EBCs and piggy backs or various types can ceratinly produce more power, this is not the case with intakes. Specially in FI cars, these mods seem to be useful only after massively retuning the car with other modifications.... Please corect me if I'm wrong....

Just my $.02

 

hey guys i just bought an arc intake box from craigslist for 175 in exellent condition. the only problem is that i cant install because i already have an aftermarket intake pipe and it doesnt fit with the arc induction box. i dont have the stock one anymore. is there any intake pipe that is compatible to fit with the arc induction box? i prefer not to have any silicone intake

 

Dude this thread is almost 6 years old.

 

as with most threads on this website. all the new ones get closed. no new opinions, just the ones from2003. i guess you cant learn anything new in 6 years cause all the new threads get closed and people told to search. w/e i guess but fresh opinions from new people would be nice sometimes.

 

i love mine it works alot better than other intakes iv used. the sound is so cool to, alot louder than other intakes like the perrin. i would keep it but it wont work with my new turbo