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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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i heard the ats carbonetics twin is one of the best twins. 2 of my buddies had them and they came from the exedy twin. i have heard of a lot of premature failures with exedy's also.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshs EVO
That sucks cause I just installed my 35R and gettting meth also and I only have the ACT street disc. good to 450hp. We'll see how long I can make it last.

it will be alright for a while so long as you don't launch it more than twice

It will stilll hold pretty well on a roll in, but from a launch it just doesn't want to do it.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 01:32 AM
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It's always cheaper to get the best clutch one can't really afford the first time. As the saying goes, you can pay now, or pay more later when the cheaper one gives up.

In this case, an AWD car that generates a lot of power and launches quickly will be tough on a clutch, which is why the multiplate clutches are so popular here. I've determined at this point that a multiplate metallic clutch is the way to go for just about any street driven EVO that makes enough power to compromise the durability of a single plate unit. For the drag racers that make relatively few street miles, the true carbon units are an (expensive) option. Steel-carbon units (e.g. Carbonetics) are a less expensive option for drag racers, but it seems the rebuild cost is steep, and I haven't seen real evidence that they outlast comparable metallic units on the street.

Just my $0.02 worth.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 06:21 AM
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Well i have alomost the same setup as you and i am running Carbonetics twin carbon clutch and its holding great.....
I would suggest go Carbonetics twin carbon!
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 06:31 AM
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Exedy Twin and call it a day.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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I know most people don't recommend this clutch because only a few vendors sell it in particular Devo Tuning in Chicago.. But mark my word..

A Quarter Master Twin disk has the same if not better bite than an Exedy Twin but the pedal is much softer, possibly softer than stock and the shifting on it is amazing. I can honestly say I became a better driver when i simply switched to this clutch. The cost is similar to the exedy twin and you can also rebuild it after it wears out at a smaller cost.

Mike Raiken who has the record for the Texas Mile has this clutch as well as Yusuf and a few other people that have fast cars.

My friend who has a Exedy Twin Disc drove my car and was amazed at how much softer and comfortable it felt and also how it helped with shifting since it required less force on your foot in between shifts.

Research and find out.. I know Quartermaster makes alot of clutches for professional drag cars and is quite known in that field. Good luck.

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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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^my brother is getting the quarter master twin next week. Heard good things about it. I'm going to compare it with my exedy.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SPEED
^my brother is getting the quarter master twin next week. Heard good things about it. I'm going to compare it with my exedy.

please let us know what you find
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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what do you guys think of the cusco twin plate?
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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i have it on my 35r/meth Ix and love it... it is for some reason TON louder than my friends HD exedy... but they are basically the same clutch... either way both will do fine.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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ORC twin or triple plate. I have an exedy twin right now and I wish I would have gotten the ORC. It's compareable to the Tilton and Quarter master hydraulic. You should be able to contact bulletproof automotive they are having a sale right now i think.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by V.8MR
what do you guys think of the cusco twin plate?
Its the same as a Exedy SD, exedy makes it for Cusco, not worth it for a bigger turbo car.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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ats tripple carbonetics one word awesome. if not second choise exedy twin hd two words second best
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ASE_Tech@TTP
ats tripple carbonetics one word awesome. if not second choise exedy twin hd two words second best
what about the carbonetics twin? any out there with some miles on them around like 500whp.i heard the pedal feel is much better on the carbonetics as well.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
It's always cheaper to get the best clutch one can't really afford the first time. As the saying goes, you can pay now, or pay more later when the cheaper one gives up.

In this case, an AWD car that generates a lot of power and launches quickly will be tough on a clutch, which is why the multiplate clutches are so popular here. I've determined at this point that a multiplate metallic clutch is the way to go for just about any street driven EVO that makes enough power to compromise the durability of a single plate unit. For the drag racers that make relatively few street miles, the true carbon units are an (expensive) option. Steel-carbon units (e.g. Carbonetics) are a less expensive option for drag racers, but it seems the rebuild cost is steep, and I haven't seen real evidence that they outlast comparable metallic units on the street.

Just my $0.02 worth.
very good info btw. are the exedy twin hd's metallic or what should be a good clutch for my car i am doing a buschur 35r this winter and want something that will stand the track maybe 1 every 3 weeks or so but i drive pretty hard on the street but it is a weekend car only. and i am going to run c16 on the 35r also at the track and pump and meth any other time.(occasionally some c16 on the street).what do you think. i dont have the money for a triple but i need the best twin. the only thing is i am very skeptical about tilton i hear they are very very noisy and is not good for any semi street applications. thanks guys
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