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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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u already got a strong bottem end but dun go for gt37r turbo .....
ull be having alota lag and ur not even maxing out ur gt35 r as we dun av fuel to do that honestly speeking .
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by IWANNAGOFAST
cool man but wat wat fuel system should i be using and wat psi should i be at with methanol on pump and c16
The setup I'd recommend for street use (functional, clean and quiet) would be twin Walbros in a Full Blown twin pump hanger combined with 1250cc injectors, Aeromotive FPR, Aeromotive fuel rail and the lines to make those connections. I've heard of guys running as much as 35 psi on pump and methanol but that will depend on where the knock threshold is on your tune and where your tuner feels is safe. C16 will take as much boost as that turbocharger will make. Here's a picture of the Full Blown hanger which is a direct replacement for the stock plastic hanger.



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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ETS Tom
The setup I'd recommend for street use (functional, clean and quiet) would be twin Walbros in a Full Blown twin pump hanger combined with 1250cc injectors, Aeromotive FPR, Aeromotive fuel rail and the lines to make those connections. I've heard of guys running as much as 35 psi on pump and methanol but that will depend on where the knock threshold is on your tune and where your tuner feels is safe. C16 will take as much boost as that turbocharger will make. Here's a picture of the Full Blown hanger which is a direct replacement for the stock plastic hanger.



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I agree i like the look and convinience of Full Blown's set-up.

If you're guna push lots of boost it'll be necessary as we have reached the max of the single 255 fp w/ 1000cc inj. @ 34psi on a 35R.

Must you run the upgraded rail or can you use the rest of the stock system like Buschur's double-pumper set-up
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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You can retain the stock rail, though the Aeromotive unit is very reasonably priced and offers both stock style inlet/outlet fittings and -8 inlet/outlet when the stock fittings are removed for a simple and clean install. It's the ultimate in flexibility. A single Walbro will no longer be able to maintain fuel pressure much past 525whp. My AFRs started to lean out pretty badly up top at 535whp with just one Walbro. If you've got an AEM EMS, you can set up a relay on an output that only kicks the second pump on when you're past 10-15psi.

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ETS Tom
The setup I'd recommend for street use (functional, clean and quiet) would be twin Walbros in a Full Blown twin pump hanger combined with 1250cc injectors, Aeromotive FPR, Aeromotive fuel rail and the lines to make those connections. I've heard of guys running as much as 35 psi on pump and methanol but that will depend on where the knock threshold is on your tune and where your tuner feels is safe. C16 will take as much boost as that turbocharger will make. Here's a picture of the Full Blown hanger which is a direct replacement for the stock plastic hanger.



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definetly gonna get that!!
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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hey tom can you pm me a price for the pump and precision 1250cc injectors
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ETS Tom
You can retain the stock rail, though the Aeromotive unit is very reasonably priced and offers both stock style inlet/outlet fittings and -8 inlet/outlet when the stock fittings are removed for a simple and clean install. It's the ultimate in flexibility. A single Walbro will no longer be able to maintain fuel pressure much past 525whp. My AFRs started to lean out pretty badly up top at 535whp with just one Walbro. If you've got an AEM EMS, you can set up a relay on an output that only kicks the second pump on when you're past 10-15psi.

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Thanks for the info Tom.

I do have an AEM EMS and our tuner Sean rec'd doing the same thing in regards to the relay.

I'm no fuel expert by any means and always wondered what would happen w/ the 2nd in-line pump if it would cause a restriction when not flowing

Guess it won't be a prob after all woohoo.

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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so wat kind of gas mileage will i be looking at with twin pumps and 1250cc injectors.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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With an AEM EMS the part throttle cruise tune can net better gas mileage than factory. When I'm being good on a tank of gas I can get 25mpg with 1000cc injectors and twin pumps. Obviously you'll blow through the fuel in a much bigger hurry at WOT than you would've compared to the stock fuel pump and ~550cc injectors, but that's part of what you have to pay to play

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ETS Tom
With an AEM EMS the part throttle cruise tune can net better gas mileage than factory. When I'm being good on a tank of gas I can get 25mpg with 1000cc injectors and twin pumps. Obviously you'll blow through the fuel in a much bigger hurry at WOT than you would've compared to the stock fuel pump and ~550cc injectors, but that's part of what you have to pay to play

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OH YEAH this should be fun
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Anyone read up on the Denso 310lph fuel pump ? At least thats what i thought it was i forgot where i saw it ill have to search again but i was unsure if it flows more than the walbro one or its just a junk pump.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by haseeb
@evo
u already got a strong bottem end but dun go for gt37r turbo .....
ull be having alota lag and ur not even maxing out ur gt35 r as we dun av fuel to do that honestly speeking .
Hey!am already running 2.4 bars....So am i a bit bored.
Now it doesnt feel fast so i was thinking of changing it....
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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Just think when you go with the 37r you'll have about 70 to 80 whp more at the same boost.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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a 37 is no joke!! If i was going this far out on the limb, I would jus do a BB 67 in a T4 housing.....
Maybe its jus me, but if i were at the point of going beyond a 35R, then y not jus go 4 it.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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a 37 is no joke!! If i was going this far out on the limb, I would jus do a BB 67 in a T4 housing.....
Maybe its jus me, but if i were at the point of going beyond a 35R, then y not jus go 4 it.

the reason i wouldnt run the t4 37r is cause im using the stock motor so the spool would be way late and i wouldnt be able to rev as high. im going with the t3 style cause spool is faster and yes i will lose in the topend a little but my 280s will make some of that lost power come back.

i guess my real concern is will i really enjoy the 37r. im talking about the lag, streetable, 1/4 mile, my motor breaking .

ive been hearing many things like that the 37r will fully spool at almost 6000 rpm on stock motor but then i hear that it will fully spool by 5200 rpm. also that i will only be able to run 32psi on c16 with meth? im very confused cause i dont know whose right
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