then i guess the stock turbo spools at 2400-3000rpms and is good to 500whp

 

There is also a similar dyno sheet on FPs page, just click the little pic and it will pop right up for you. http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...ode=NTEVOGreen

This is on Buschurs dyno in Wakeman. It's widely known as a very conservative dyno and reads lower than most any I have seen. Do you think it will read lower in Aus?

 

Also please note how nice and fat that torque curve is from that FP Green LT.

With my money I will most likely vote for the Green but if I were to hit the lotto and was building a dedicated race car I would go with something bigger with a built motor and spin it higher and take advantage of the bigger turbo. Without the built motor I think the Green is about as fine an option as there is.

Just my 2 cents. Then again... you did ask about spool. I think with the above dyno plots you may have your answer.

 

Yeah I think it will be a huge difference ...

All Dyno's here in AUS, regardless of brand use a Clamping system to simulate load. The drums that our cars spin on are clamped with electronically controlled brakes.

All the ones in the USA, use inertia type system. From what I've seen and been told, its a huge barrel that spins up to cause inertia and simulate load.

Apparently thats were the difference is, and its well over 100Kw from what I have been told ...

Thats a huge difference, hence why I am dumb founded when you guys tell me that the EVO Green pulls such big numbers.

Even on the most generous Dyno here in AUS, the best I've seen from it was 253Kw, including ECU, CAMS, INTAKTE, etc.. etc..

Like I said, I'm running a EVO9 RS trubo, and there aint much difference in power between my car and the cars runing the EVO Green.

We have another car being setup here in AUS with a EVO Green, its currently pulling 220Kw @ the wheels, I suspect it will hit the 240Kw mark with the EVO Green, I'll keep you posted...


Unless everyone is using the Same Dyno, we cant really tell ... I suppose the good old 1/4 mile time and mph figure shows a true comparison.

Cheers.

 

Try looking at the site, I didnt make these numbers up! http://store.evostore.com/amsturbokit.html

 

This is the part that interested me ...

GT3076R Kit - 650 HP - Spool 3000 - 3600 RPM

GT3071R Kit - 575 HP - Spool 3200 - 3800 RPM

GT35RL Kit - 775 HP - Spool 3600 - 4200 RPM

Now I thought the GT3076R spooled at 3200 RPM. (as claimed on the AMS site), sure this is not a misprint ??

The price is great, its actually cheaper than on the AMS site, by $280.95

Can you tell me about the 50 trim, what is the GT???? number for this kit. The AMS site claims the 50 trim spins up faster than the 3076 .... so is it a smaller turbo ??

I'm leaning towards the 3076R, but before I enter the VISA details... couple of questions.
I noticed that the Buschur version is much cheaper ---> https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...roducts_id=123
is that because, there is no Tubular Header included?

 

The cast manifold is a big cost saving.

If you call the guys at Buschurs and tell them what your thinking about they can give you an idea of what times and speeds a given set up will run and what it will cost as well as other things to consider.

 

You're misinformed about the type of dyno's used in the U.S., we have the same dyno's available to us that you have. Bushchur's dyno is a Mustang awd dyno with eddy current power absorbers.

If you guy's can't pull 400whp with a Green and supporting mods, you should probably find a different tuner.

 

I agree with that! The Green should put out alot more than that.

And with the AMS kit you also get there down pipe and LICP to with the kit. I live 40 minutes away from Buschur and I have heard alot of bad stories about there tunes but I also have heard good. So I dont know, but I personally am a AMS guy.

 

Ok, now that we have sorted the Dyno thing out, seems down under we are just behind the eight-ball ...

Are any of you guys running a MOTEC or PowerFC ??
What kind of timing are you guys running ??
What kind of Boost ??

I'm freaking out, that we are nowhere near you guys ...

Cheers.

 

Ok, Dave from Buschur Racing just posted these numbers from a new turbo they are working with. I never considered a 35 until I saw this. Sick sick numbers. This is on 93 pump gas by the way... the turbo, the new HTA35r.

 

Just a little FYI, Jeff at Full Race confirmed that you could send in the TS 35R from their kit and have FP convert it to an HTA

 

Guys, I have gone the EVO Green, lets see what it can do ...

If it does not pull the numbers, its getting ripped off, and sold ... I'm already thinking of the next Turbo...

What do you guys think of the Buschur 3065 ???

Cheers.

 

If you don't want the green let me know. I'll take it.

 

If you have deep pockets, you'll order a Full Race twin-scroll 35R, and then send the turbo in to Forced Performance and get converted to an HTA