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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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I think alot of the lag people talk about is the loss of twitch or transition mentioned above. Say your are cruising down the strip at 25mph in 3rd gear and a stop light turns yellow. With the stocker you can dip the throttle and it will spool right up. On a bigger turbo it takes noticably longer to begin to spool.

The bigger turbo will make more power up top but the loss of low end is noticed every time you drive the car. Its more like driving a regular lancer until you really put your foot into. I like the twitchiness of the stock turbo. I like instant spool simply by pressing the pedal down 1/4 inch.

I think a stroker and the green would be the best of both worlds. Better than stock spool, more lowend torque, and more airflow up top. It may not have a blazing top end but who cares.... shift earlier and enjoy the same power.
I totally agree with what you are saying. I personally prefer the less twitchy setup I have now. Anyone who prefers the instant spool from anything above 2500 RPM would be unhappy with my setup. I like having the ability to control boost a bit with the throttle rather than being at 20 psi any time I go >60% throttle. Ultimately, it comes down to which driving style a person prefers, as both setups have their strengths and weaknesses.

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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I was told that the 2.3 would flow too much exhaust gases for the green, maybe I heard incorrectly.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoIXMR
or a 57 trim, right - scorke? Isnt a 57 trim just about the same as a 3076?
what is the diff?
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sabastian458
I was told that the 2.3 would flow too much exhaust gases for the green, maybe I heard incorrectly.
That certainly is not a problem. All that means is you'll be able to max out the Green and not have to run crazy boost.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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i have used it on a street car before (not an evo) was one of my favorite turbo's i have ever owned, i still have it to, waiting to come across a car put it on, since then evo is getting an hta35r
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
That certainly is not a problem. All that means is you'll be able to max out the Green and not have to run crazy boost.
No.

Well its a problem if you want power/tq past 5/6k.

That will make peak tq at around 3-3500 rpms which will be high 400's to 500 ftlbs on race gas, but you will lose close to 250+ ftlbs by redline becasue of the turbos inability to supply the same boost a t higher rpms.

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Basically if you want an Evo with similar to stock spool, but much better power, then something like a 2.3L + 3076 is perfect. Good for the street, good for for road-racing. If you're stuck on drag racing, then a built 2.0 and larger turbo is the better choice because of the Evo's stock gearing.

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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My stock turbo 2.3L definently runs out of steam up top...

But, you know what?
i love my stroker to much to rev it to death and besides that the motor doesnt sound too happy at 7k rpms anyways..

MY driving style's one absent of over reving

i can't imagine my old 35r on my new motor.. it would be a beast but, it couldn't be good for longevity
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by scorke
No.

Well its a problem if you want power/tq past 5/6k.

That will make peak tq at around 3-3500 rpms which will be high 400's to 500 ftlbs on race gas, but you will lose close to 250+ ftlbs by redline becasue of the turbos inability to supply the same boost a t higher rpms.

Scorke
You will make the same or more power on a stroker than you will on a 2.0l. You may have the turbo maxed out sooner but you'll still be making very good numbers. Odds are you'll see something close to 500/500. Sure you could make more with a bigger turbo but you wouldn't have insane power and spool down low where it matters.
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
You will make the same or more power on a stroker than you will on a 2.0l. You may have the turbo maxed out sooner but you'll still be making very good numbers. Odds are you'll see something close to 500/500. Sure you could make more with a bigger turbo but you wouldn't have insane power and spool down low where it matters.
A green will not =make 500 500 ever, a 3076 could make 500/500 on a 2.3, 2.0's usually do make more peak power than 2.3's as you said due to being able to rev higher with the 2.0s.

Where it matters changes depending on your personal preferences. Rally cars would beat any car on any surface up to 100 mph but some people prefer to stick to tarmac and go faster I know what your saying.

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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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There's already one making more torque and almost that much HP on a 2.0. It would be much easier to make the same power on a 2.3.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=310098

All I'm saying is if you can make X power on a 2.0 you can make X power on a 2.3 but it will be easier to do and probably come sooner.

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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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HIJACKED FTMFL!!! Go figure.
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
There's already one making more torque and almost that much HP on a 2.0. It would be much easier to make the same power on a 2.3.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=310098

All I'm saying is if you can make X power on a 2.0 you can make X power on a 2.3 but it will be easier to do and probably come sooner.
Still not 500 500 I hear you though.

If you can make X power on a 2.0 you will make less on a stroker if your motor cannot support the airflow increase by the 2.3. Going from a 2.0 to 2.3 all else being the same I gained 0 whp (literally down to tenths) and 40 ft lbs of tq. Power under the curve was substantially increased but peak HP was the exact same.

Strokers don't add Peak HP they add power/tq down low and better turbo response.

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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BGevoIX
HIJACKED FTMFL!!! Go figure.
This thread is not hijacked in any sense.

We are conversing on the capabilities and results of the GREEN vs 30R, a common comparison although different beasts altogether.

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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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Neat vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqAQz...eature=related
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