Hey all, i'm loking for feedback on some ideas i want to do with my 2006 IX MR. please dont flame, i have limited funds so please keep that in mind.

My goal is a fully built 2.2L Cosworth crate engine from Works in SF with a Full Race gt35r twinscroll kit and tune. preferably COBB protune (when its available) but im open to suggestions for evo tuners in SoCal. heres where it gets a little funny.

due to the cost of engine, that would be the only thing i can do for the moment. im tying to get some word from Works on the install and details on the engine itself but assuming everything is kosher, allow them to do the install and tune with the stock turbo and the exhaust i have already on the car for a limited time while i can get the funds for the turbo kit and other supporting mods.

i realize this set up would be very limited by the stock turbo but remember this is very temporary.

also id like to have this about 550 whp on pump gas only (if possible) with out having to rely on alky or meth when the gt35r is installed. i know the set up has more potential than that but i would like it to be very reliable at high revs and as a daily driver with the weekend road race.

i dont know what more to really post but i can answer any questions you may have to help with your opinion. you all are very knowledgeable and i welcome any input you can give. im kind of new to the 4g63 (former Sti owner with lots of mods and tuning) and really look forward to your input.

 

okay here is issue number one...funding

you choose the one of the most expensive engines and turbo kits on the market

issue two...tuning

AEM or standalone of the sort is what you want...COBB has VERY LIMITED (if any) high hp applications with proven results

issue three...wtf

if you are going to build the motor and slap on a big turbo kit...do it right and don't be a cheapo

issue four...search

the amount of knowledge and proven data on this forum is incredible...take your time to read and learn

happy holidays

 

its not an issue of being a cheapo...obviously...but whether or not the funds are immediately available. im expecting the engine to be the most expensive part of this and have the funds for it now. the turbo kit and supporting mods will take a while before i can get the cash for that. i plan on paying cash for all this and would like to do in "stages" so i dont have to cough up $20k, or whatever it costs, all at once. i did do a bunch of research on the kits available and this is the one i chose. but please expand on "doing it right". that is why i started this thread. what do you mean by that.

i did do searches but none of them provided any information on this type of a situation. i did find a wealth of knowledge on supporting mods and what not.

i do appreciate your repsonse and look forward to more input. thanks and have a good holiday.

 

I can tell you one thing WORKS is not cheap...and Cali has a wealth of evo tuners/shops so I would start in the regional forums and see what opinions you have

if it was my car I'd get the turbo kit prior to the motor...I'd rather have a big turbo with a little motor than a built motor and a limited turbo

if I was you I'd call buschur or AMS and see what they can do for you as far as engine components and a turbo kit...best bet to save some cash is to buy all the parts together

 

If you would like to save some money on the engine but retain performance look into a JAM (Jackson Auto Machine) built engine. They have more expereince building 4g63s than Cosworth, and their heads have been shown to outflow the Cossie heads. They are a vendor on the site.

 

thanks for the info. i'll check them out. mele kalikimaka.

 

What is your end goal for the car? If you're planning on tracking the hell out of the car on a road course, I'd say you better start saving a LOT more money.

If this is just going to be a badass weekend car, well, you have tons of options. Cosworth isn't a bad way to go though due to their extensive racing in all forms or racing at the highest levels.

 

badass weekend car. im no pro racer nor mean to give any indication that i am. i just want a bad *** car that i can take to the track and have some serious fun in either autocross, roadrace or whatever.

 

ur on a budget, so why go full race and cosworth? most pricey items on the market.

a jam built block assembled is way way cheaper then cosworth and performans just as well.

you wont get 550 on pump with a gt35r

fullrace is way over rated. yea the new hype is twin scroll, honestly not a big deal.
ams kit or ets is right there with performance with half the cost and their proven.

just a reflection
Cosworth EVO 4G63 High Performance Short Block 2.2L
Our price: $9,279.95 from lancershop.com

thats not including the install. Thats just the block itself.

 

not on a budget. just funds not available at this time. there's adifference. but i understand what you are getting too. this is just the path that i'm interested in taking and want to find out as much as i can according to experience.

im not a hype follower or anything like that. anyhow, you ahve a good point and this is what i am looking for.

i think as it stands now a 3076 is more realistic for pump gas but with a lower hp goal.

 

u have to be more specific on what your goals are.

drag , road course, ect... then youll find out the best set-up for ur goal

for the best all around set up would be a 2.3 stroker with gt35r on race gas.
with a sick suspension set up, cant go wrong with that.

 

only problem is, i've read, the 2.3 isn't necessarily the best set up for high rev applications. 2.2L i understand is more friendly for something like roadracing.

i think some people are missing what i am getting at with this post. 500 whp is not a requirement for me. it was more of a "is this possible?" goal. i shoulda been more specific i guess. i dont want to run race gas so there's no use in suggesting that.

anyhow, please keep your opinions and suggestions coming.

 

or 2.1 [2.3 or2.4 stroker (something like that) on 2 liter crank]. It's the the B20 (from honda) of the Evo world.

But since 500whp is not a requirement for u and don't want to run race gas, then I don't see no point of running bigger than 20G. And anything bigger needs race gas cause thats where they really shine.

 

yeah, i would keep a faster spooling turbo for road racing anyway, you will really be wasting your money getting a 30r or 35r kit and not using meth or race gas, just trying to help you out man good luck