ok so this is what i bought

http://www.permatex.com/products/aut...one_Gasket.htm

and im thinking maybe i should return it and get something else or maybe even this

http://www.permatex.com/products/aut...sket_Maker.htm

what do u guys use? i called mitsu and the stock stuff was like $45 so i said F that. i was also recomended to get something called "Great Stuff", anyone herd of it?

 

Standard grey is fine. Clean both mating surfaces well, 409 does a better job than brake clean at removing the oil film. Apply a bead, let it tack up (silicone needs moisture to set) to where you can just touch it without it sticking to your finger, then install the pan. The amount of time it takes to tack up depends on the humidity and temperature, the colder and less humid it is the longer it takes.

 

Acetone is a great metal prep before applying silicone

 

Red RTV is what I use. works for almost anywhere where a seal is needed on the engine block.

 

i used the hi temp black rtv... like post 2 said... give it a few seconds to set before bolting it up.. then let it sit for a few hours to dry

 

I used red, but next time will use black, as the red bead oozing out all around the pan is ugly. Black is not as visible.

 

I used about the same stuff, and brake cleaner to prep. You should be good.

 

go to your local vw dealer and buy the white sealer they use on the oil pans,

its the best we've found, 22 bucks a tube.

cb

 

Really? i was actually just there, had to get a tail light bulb for my gf's gti

 

The factory Mitsubishi stuff is what I use, and I highly reccomend it. It's very expensive (about $30 a tube) but is actually well worth the cost, especialy if you are putting an engine together. Especialy for the oil pan and return gasket, which are always prone to leaking even with other types of RTV. It comes in a white tube, and is grey and thick in texture. I don't have a part number off hand, but they usualy have it in stock at any Mitsubishi dealer.

 

yes,

this stuff is almost identical to the vw material.

cb

 

Never had a poblem with the Black atv.

 

Some years ago I was replacing an intake manifold and gallery cover on an Olds 403. The first time I messed up, things didn't line up right, and i had to pull it apart for a second try. Then I found I was out of RTV. Rather than going to the auto store I used a tube of bath tub caulk. That car is still running today (a 1979 TA) and it doesn't leak (well, at least there).

I'm not advocating the use of bath tub caulk on your pan. I only want to point out that I think surface preparation is more important than what product you use. I had the mating surfaces clean and oil free.

 

I use permatex ultra black. Alot of the local guys use HondaBond sealant which apparently honda dealers sell for about $20/tube.